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Re: !! Architects ad Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11

investigation !!

Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 08:51:31 -0400

Organization: Cornell University

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S`mee wrote:

> On Mar 27, 1:33 pm, Henry <9...(at)insidejob.gov> wrote:



> Nut jobs.




justice, freedom and America hating extremists and

terrorists or their apologist hide the truth>



http://911blogger.com/node/14549



So. on planet kook, everyone who hasn`t swallowed

the Bush/Cheney magic fire/Super Arab cartoon conspiracy

theory is insane, because everyone "knows" that neither one

of them would ever lie about anything or kill innocent

people. Good "thinking".



> I note there are FEW if any qualified demolition experts or engineers

> involved...



There are hundred in the link below.

Can you cite one who can explain how fires caused

the massive steel frames in WTC7 and the towers to

suddenly explode and disintegrate at virtual free

fall speed and perfect symmetry? So far, we have yet

to see one. Here are a few hundred more highly qualified

experts who prove that your cartoon fairy tale is

impossible.





http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/11/overwhelming-majority-of-credible.html



MILITARY LEADERS



Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan

(Col. Ronald D. Ray) said that the official story of 9/11 is "the dog

that doesn`t hunt" (bio)



Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" space defense program in both

Republican and Democratic administrations, who was a senior air force

colonel who flew 101 combat missions (Col. Robert Bowman) stated that

9/11 was an inside job. He also said:



"If our government had merely [done] nothing, and I say that as an

old interceptor pilot?I know the drill, I know what it takes, I know how

long it takes, I know what the procedures are, I know what they were,

and I know what they?ve changed them to?if our government had merely

done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of

9/11, the Twin Towers would still be standing and thousands of dead

Americans would still be alive. [T]hat is treason!"



U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director, decorated with the

Purple Heart, the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal (Capt. Daniel

Davis) stated:



"there is no way that an aircraft . . . would not be intercepted

when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders,

or stop communication with Air Traffic Control ... Attempts to obscure

facts by calling them a `conspiracy Theory` does not change the truth.

It seems, `Something is rotten in the State.` "



President of the U.S. Air Force Accident Investigation Board, who also

served as Pentagon Weapons Requirement Officer and as a member of the

Pentagon`s Quadrennial Defense Review, and who was awarded Distinguished

Flying Crosses for Heroism, four Air Medals, four Meritorious Service

Medals, and nine Aerial Achievement Medals (Lt. Col. Jeff Latas) is a

member of a group which doubts the government`s version of 9/11



U.S. General, Commanding General of U.S. European Command and Supreme

Allied Commander Europe, decorated with the Bronze Star, Silver Star,

and Purple Heart (General Wesley Clark) said "We`ve never finished the

investigation of 9/11 and whether the administration actually misused

the intelligence information it had. The evidence seems pretty clear to

me. I`ve seen that for a long time."



Air Force Colonel and key Pentagon official (Lt. Colonel Karen

Kwiatkowski) finds various aspects of 9/11 suspicious. She also said:

(at page 26):



"I have been told by reporters that they will not report their own

insights or contrary evaluations of the official 9/11 story, because to

question the government story about 9/11 is to question the very

foundations of our entire modern belief system regarding our government,

our country, and our way of life. [However], questioning the official

story is also simply and fundamentally American."



Lieutenant colonel, 24-year Air Force career, Vice Chancellor for

Student Affairs at the Defense Language Institute (Lt. Colonel Steve

Butler) said "Of course Bush knew about the impending attacks on

America. He did nothing to warn the American people because he needed

this war on terrorism."



Two-Star general (Major General Albert Stubbelbine) questions the attack

on the Pentagon



U.S. Air Force fighter pilot, former instructor at the USAF Fighter

Weapons School and NATO?s Tactical Leadership Program, with a 20-year

Air Force career (Lt. Colonel Guy S. Razer) said the following:



"I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were

planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have

infiltrated the highest levels of our government ....



Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the

Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and

domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid,

so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real

perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it

is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.



We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same

oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right

now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders

that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of

that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate

definition of treason!"



U.S. Marine Corps lieutenant colonel, a fighter pilot with over 300

combat missions flown and a 21-year Marine Corps career (Lt. Colonel

Shelton F. Lankford) believes that 9/11 was an inside job, and said:



"This isn`t about party, it isn`t about Bush Bashing. It`s about

our country, our constitution, and our future. ...



Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it

the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who

used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away.



If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual

information that directly contradicts the official report and who want

explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have

motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy

or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make

you? ....



Are you afraid that you will learn the truth and you can`t handle

it? ..."



U.S. Navy `Top Gun` pilot (Commander Ralph Kolstad) who questions the

official account of 9/11 and is calling for a new investigation, says

"When one starts using his own mind, and not what one was told, there is

very little to believe in the official story".



The Group Director on matters of national security in the U.S.

Government Accountability Office said that President Bush did not

respond to unprecedented warnings of the 9/11 disaster and conducted a

massive cover-up instead of accepting responsibility



Additionally, numerous military leaders from allied governments have

questioned 9/11, such as:



Canadian Minister of Defense, the top military leader of Canada (Paul

Hellyer)



Assistant German Defense Minister (Andreas Von Bulow)



Commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy (Anatoli Kornukov)



Chief of staff of the Russian armed forces (General Leonid Ivashov)



INTELLIGENCE PROFESSIONALS



Former military analyst and famed whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg recently

said that the case of a certain 9/11 whistleblower is "far more

explosive than the Pentagon Papers". He also said that the government is

ordering the media to cover up her allegations about 9/11. And he said

that some of the claims concerning government involvement in 9/11 are

credible, that "very serious questions have been raised about what they

[U.S. government officials] knew beforehand and how much involvement

there might have been", that engineering 9/11 would not be humanly or

psychologically beyond the scope of the current administration, and that

there`s enough evidence to justify a new, "hard-hitting" investigation

into 9/11 with subpoenas and testimony taken under oath.



A 27-year CIA veteran, who chaired National Intelligence Estimates and



personally delivered intelligence briefings to Presidents Ronald Reagan

and George H.W. Bush, their Vice Presidents, Secretaries of State, the

Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many other senior government officials

(Raymond McGovern) said ?I think at simplest terms, there?s a cover-up.

The 9/11 Report is a joke?, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was

an inside job.



A 29-year CIA veteran, former National Intelligence Officer (NIO) and

former Director of the CIA`s Office of Regional and Political Analysis

(William Bill Christison) said ?I now think there is persuasive evidence

that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration

and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. ... All three [buildings

that were destroyed in the World Trade Center] were most probably



destroyed by controlled demolition charges placed in the buildings

before 9/11." (and see this).



20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer, the

second-ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former

CIA clandestine services case officer (David Steele) stated that "9/11

was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war", and it was

probably an inside job (see Customer Review dated October 7, 2006).



A decorated 20-year CIA veteran, who Pulitzer-Prize winning

investigative reporter Seymour Hersh called "perhaps the best

on-the-ground field officer in the Middle East?, and whose astounding

career formed the script for the Academy Award winning motion picture

Syriana (Robert Baer) said that"the evidence points at" 9/11 having had

aspects of being an inside job .



The Division Chief of the CIA?s Office of Soviet Affairs, who served as

Senior Analyst from 1966 - 1990. He also served as Professor of

International Security at the National War College from 1986 - 2004

(Melvin Goodman) said "The final [9/11 Commission] report is ultimately

a coverup."



Professor of History and International Relations, University of

Maryland. Former Executive Assistant to the Director of the National

Security Agency. Former military attaché in China. 21-year career in

U.S. Army Intelligence (Major John M. Newman, PhD, U.S. Army)

questions the government`s version of the events of 9/11.



The head of all U.S. intelligence, the Director of National Intelligence

(Mike McConnel) said "9/11 should have and could have been prevented"



9/11 COMMISSIONERS



The 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials lied to the

Commission, and considered recommending criminal charges for such false

statements, yet didn`t bother to tell the American people (free

subscription required).



Indeed, the co-chairs of the Commission (Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton)

now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political

considerations.



9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says "I don`t believe for a minute

we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that

people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate

should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only "the first

draft" of history.



9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that "There are ample reasons to

suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our

version . . . We didn`t have access . . . ."



9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said "We were extremely frustrated with

the false statements we were getting"



Former 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission,

stating: "It is a national scandal"; "This investigation is now

compromised"; and "One of these days we will have to get the full story

because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House

wants to cover it up".



The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) who led the 9/11

staff`s inquiry, said "I was shocked at how different the truth was from



the way it was described .... The tapes told a radically different story

from what had been told to us and the public for two years.... This is

not spin. This is not true."

SCIENTISTS



A prominent physicist with 33 years of service for the Naval Research

Laboratory in Washington, DC (Dr. David L. Griscom) said that the

official theory for why the Twin Towers and world trade center building

7 collapsed "does not match the available facts" and supports the theory

that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition



A world-renowned scientist, recipient of the National Medal of Science,

America`s highest honor for scientific achievement (Dr. Lynn Margulis) said:



"I suggest that those of us aware and concerned demand that the

glaringly erroneous official account of 9/11 be dismissed as a fraud and

a new, thorough, and impartial investigation be undertaken."



The former head of the Fire Science Division of the government agency

which claims that the World Trade Centers collapsed due to fire (the

National Institute of Standards and Technology), who is a Ph.D. in

mechanical engineering, with more than 25 years experience in fire

research and its applications, and is a professor in the Department of

Fire Protection Engineering at the University of Maryland (Dr. James

Quintiere), called for an independent review of the World Trade Center

Twin Tower collapse investigation. "I wish that there would be a peer

review of this," he said, referring to the NIST investigation. "I think

all the records that NIST has assembled should be archived. I would

really like to see someone else take a look at what they`ve done; both

structurally and from a fire point of view. ... I think the official

conclusion that NIST arrived at is questionable."



Former Director for Research, Director for Aeronautical Projects, and

Flight Research Program Manager for NASA`s Dryden Flight Research

Center, who holds masters degrees in both physics and engineering (Dwain

A. Deets) says:



"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled

horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind

explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Centers

on 9/11].``



A prominent physicist, former U.S. professor of physics from a top

university, and a former principal investigator for the U.S. Department

of Energy, Division of Advanced Energy Projects (Dr. Steven E. Jones)

stated that the world trade centers were brought down by controlled

demolition



A U.S. physics professor who teaches at several universities (Dr.

Crockett Grabbe) believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down

by controlled demolition



An expert on demolition (Bent Lund) said that the trade centers were

brought down with explosives (in Danish)

A Dutch demolition expert (Danny Jowenko) stated that WTC 7 was imploded



A safety engineer and accident analyst for the Finnish National Safety

Technology Authority (Dr. Heikki Kurttila) stated regarding WTC 7 that

"The great speed of the collapse and the low value of the resistance

factor strongly suggest controlled demolition."



A 13-year professor of metallurgical engineering at a U.S. university,

with a PhD in materials engineering, a former Congressional Office of

Technology Assessment Senior Staff Member (Dr. Joel S. Hirschhorn), is

calling for a new investigation of 9/11



A Danish professor of chemistry (Dr. Niels Harrit) said, in a mainstream

Danish newspaper, "WTC7 collapsed exactly like a house of cards. If the

fires or damage in one corner had played a decisive role, the building

would have fallen in that direction. You don`t have to be a woodcutter

to grasp this" (translated)



A former guidance systems engineer for Polaris and Trident missiles and

professor emeritus, mathematics and computer science at a university

concluded (Dr. Bruce R. Henry) that the Twin Towers "were brought down

by planted explosives."



A professor of mathematics (Gary Welz) said "The official explanation

that I`ve heard doesn`t make sense because it doesn`t explain why I

heard and felt an explosion before the South Tower fell and why the

concrete was pulverized"

STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS



A prominent engineer with 55 years experience, in charge of the design

of hundreds of major building projects including high rise offices,

former member of the California Seismic Safety Commission and former

member of the National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council

(Marx Ayres) believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down by

controlled demolition (see also this)



Two professors of structural engineering at a prestigious Swiss

university (Dr. Joerg Schneider and Dr. Hugo Bachmann) said that, on

9/11, World Trade Center 7 was brought down by controlled demolition

(translation here)

Charles Pegelow, structural engineer, of Houston, Texas (and see this)



Dennis Kollar, structural engineer, of West Bend, Wisconsin



Doyle Winterton, structural engineer (retired)



Haluk Akol, Structural Engineer and architect (ret.)



William Rice, P.E., structural engineer, former professor of Vermont

Technical College



An architect, member of the American Institute of Architects, who has

been a practicing architect for 20 years and has been responsible for

the production of construction documents for numerous steel-framed and

fire-protected buildings for uses in many different areas, including

education, civic, rapid transit and industrial use (Richard Gage)

disputes the claim that fire and airplane damage brought down the World

Trade Centers and believes there is strong evidence of controlled

demolition (many other architects who question 9/11 are listed here)



LEGAL SCHOLARS



Former Federal Prosecutor, Office of Special Investigations, U.S.

Department of Justice under Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan;

former U.S. Army Intelligence officer, and currently a widely-sought

media commentator on terrorism and intelligence services (John Loftus)

questions the government`s version of 9/11.



Former Inspector General, U.S. Department of Transportation; former

Professor of Aviation, Dept. of Aerospace Engineering and Aviation and

Professor of Public Policy, Ohio State University (Mary Schiavo)

questions the government`s version of 9/11.



Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois, Champaign;

a leading practitioner and advocate of international law; responsible

for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the

American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons

Convention; served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International

(1988-1992), and represented Bosnia- Herzegovina at the World Court,

with a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political

Science, both from Harvard University (Dr. Francis Boyle) questions the

government`s version of 9/11.



Former prosecutor in the Organized Crime and Racketeering Section of the

U.S. Justice Department and a key member of Attorney General Bobby

Kennedy?s anti-corruption task force; former assistant U.S. Attorney for

the Northern District of Illinois (J. Terrence "Terry" Brunner)

questions the government`s version of 9/11.



Professor Emeritus, International Law, Professor of Politics and

International Affairs, Princeton University; in 2001 served on the

three-person UN Commission on Human Rights for the Palestine

Territories, and previously, on the Independent International Commission

on Kosovo (Richard Falk) questions the government`s version of 9/11.



Bessie Dutton Murray Distinguished Professor of Law Emeritus and

Director, Center for Human Rights, University of Iowa; Fellow, World

Academy of Art and Science. Honorary Editor, Board of Editors, American

Journal of International Law (Burns H. Weston) questions the

government`s version of 9/11.



Former president of the National Lawyers Guild (C. Peter Erlinder), who

signed a petition calling for a real investigation into 9/11. And see

petition.



Assistant Professor of Criminal Justice at Troy University; associate



General Counsel, National Association of Federal Agents; Retired Agent

in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs, responsible for the internal

integrity and security for areas encompassing nine states and two

foreign locations; former Federal Sky Marshall; 27-year U.S. Customs

career (Mark Conrad) questions the government`s version of 9/11.



Professor of Law, University of Freiburg; former Minister of Justice of

West Germany (Horst Ehmke) questions the government`s version of 9/11.



Director of Academic Programs, Institute for Policy and Economic

Development, University of Texas, El Paso, specializing in executive

branch secrecy policy, governmental abuse, and law and bureaucracy;

former U.S. Army Signals Intelligence officer; author of several books

on law and political theory (Dr. William G. Weaver) questions the

government`s version of 9/11.



Famed trial attorney (Gerry Spence) questions the government`s version

of 9/11.



Former Instructor of Criminal Trial Practice, Boalt Hall School of Law,

University of California at Berkeley 11-year teaching career. Retired

Chief Assistant Public Defender, Contra Costa County, California 31-year

career (William Veale) said:



"When you grow up in the United States, there are some bedrock

principles that require concerted effort to discard. One is the

simplest: that our leaders are good and decent people whose efforts may

occasionally warrant criticism but never because of malice or

venality... But one grows up. ... And with the lawyer`s training comes

the reliance on evidence and the facts that persuade... After a lot of

reading, thought, study, and commiseration, I have come to the

conclusion that the attacks of 9/11 were, in their essence, an inside

job perpetrated at the highest levels of the U S government."



MEMBERS OF CONGRESS



Current U.S. Senator (Patrick Leahy) states "The two questions that the

congress will not ask . . . is why did 9/11 happen on George Bush`s

watch when he had clear warnings that it was going to happen? Why did

they allow it to happen?"



Current Republican Congressman (Ron Paul) states that "we see the [9/11]

investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and

no real explanation of what went on"



Current Democratic Congressman (Dennis Kucinich) hints that we aren`t

being told the truth about 9/11



Former Democratic Senator (Mike Gravel) states that he supports a new

9/11 investigation and that we don`t know the truth about 9/11



Former U.S. Republican Congressman and senior member of the House Armed

Services Committee, and who served six years as the Chairman of the

Military Research and Development Subcommittee (Curt Weldon) has shown

that the U.S. tracked hijackers before 9/11, is open to hearing

information about explosives in the Twin Towers, and is open to the

possibility that 9/11 was an inside job



FAMILY MEMBERS AND HEROIC FIRST RESPONDERS



A common criticism of those who question 9/11 is that they are being

"disrespectful to the victims and their families".



However, half of the victim`s families believe that 9/11 was an inside

job (according to the head of the largest 9/11 family group, Bill Doyle)

(and listen to this interview). Many family and friends of victims not

only support the search for 9/11 truth, but they demand it (please

ignore the partisan tone). See also this interview.



Indeed, it has now become so clear that the 9/11 Commission was a

whitewash that the same 9/11 widows who called for the creation of the

9/11 Commission are now demanding a NEW investigation (see also this video).



And dying heroes, soon-to-be victims themselves, the first responders

who worked tirelessly to save lives on and after 9/11, say that

controlled demolition brought down the Twin Towers and that a real

investigation is necessary.



PSYCHIATRISTS AND PSYCHOLOGISTS



Finally, those who attack people who question the government`s version

of 9/11 as "crazy" may wish to review the list of mental health

professionals who have concluded that the official version of 9/11 is false:



Psychiatrist Carol S. Wolman, MD



Psychiatrist E. Martin Schotz



Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, Duke

University Medical Center, as well as Radiology, at Duke University

Medical Center D. Lawrence Burk, Jr., MD



Board of Governors Distinguished Service Professor of Psychology and

Associate Dean of the Graduate School at Ruters University Barry R.

Komisaruk



Professor of Psychology at University of New Hampshire William Woodward



Professor of Psychology at University of Essex Philip Cozzolino



Professor of Psychology at Goddard College Catherine Lowther



Professor Emeritus of Psychology at California Institute of Integral

Studies Ralph Metzner



Professor of Psychology at Rhodes University Mike Earl-Taylor



Retired Professor of Psychology at Oxford University Graham Harris



Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology from the University of Nebraska and

licensed Psychologist Ronald Feintech



Ph.D. Clinical Neuropsychologist Richard Welser



THOUSANDS OF OTHERS



The roster above is only a sample. There are too many Ph.D. scientists

and engineers, architects, military and intelligence officials,

politicians, legal scholars and other highly-credible people who

question 9/11 -- literally thousands -- to list in one place. Here are a

few additional people to consider:



The former director of the FBI (Louis Freeh) says there was a cover up

by the 9/11 Commission



Former air traffic controller, who knows the flight corridor which the

two planes which hit the Twin Towers flew "like the back of my hand" and

who handled two actual hijackings (Robin Hordon) says that 9/11 could

not have occurred as the government says, and that planes can be tracked

on radar even when their transponders are turned off (also, listen to

this interview)



Perhaps "the premiere collapse expert in the country", who 9/11

Commissioner Timothy Roemer referred to as a "very, very respected

expert on building collapse", the head of the New York Fire Department`s

Special Operations Command and the most highly decorated firefighter in

its NYFD history, who had previously "commanded rescue operations at

many difficult and complex disasters, including the Oklahoma City

Bombing, the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing, and many natural disasters

worldwide" thought that the collapse of the South Tower was caused by

bombs, because the collapse of the building was too even to have been

caused by anything else (pages 5-6).



Former Deputy Secretary for Intelligence and Warning under Nixon, Ford,

and Carter (Morton Goulder), former former Deputy Director to the White

House Task Force on Terrorism (Edward L. Peck), and former US Department

of State Foreign Service Officer (J. Michael Springmann), as well as a

who`s who of liberals and independents) jointly call for a new

investigation into 9/11



Former FBI agent (Robert Wright) says "The FBI, rather than trying to

prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they

would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred."



Former FBI translator, who the Department of Justice`s Inspector General

and several senators have called extremely credible (free subscription

required) (Sibel Edmonds), said "If they were to do real investigations

we would see several significant high level criminal prosecutions in

this country. And that is something that they are not going to let out.

And, believe me; they will do everything to cover this up". She also is

leaning towards the conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job.







http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/05/structural-engineers-question-collapse.html



Structural Engineers Question Collapse of the World Trade Center

One of the arguments that government apologists have used in trying to

prop up the official story of why the World Trade Centers came down on

9/11 is that no structural engineers have questioned the government`s

version of events. However, that is now changing.



The following structural engineers have now publicly challenged the

government`s account of the destruction of the Trade Centers on 9/11:



Hugo Bachmann and Jörg Schneider, both emeritus professors in

structural engineering at a prestigious Swiss university (translation

here)



Doyle Winterton, structural engineer (retired)



Joseph M. Phelps, MS, PE. Structural Dynamicist (ret.), Charter Member,

Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil

Engineers



Charles Pegelow, structural engineer, of Houston, Texas



William Rice, P.E., structural engineer, former professor of Vermont

Technical College



When considered along with the other prominent scientists who question

9/11, it becomes impossible for any thinking person to accept at face

value the government`s version of the destruction of the World Trade

Center.



More experts who who have used science and hard evidence to prove

demolition:



http://journalof911studies.com/



Still more engineers and experts who explain why the Bush regime`s

magic fire theory is physically impossible.



http://ae911truth.org/



Another one:



http://www.vermontguardian.com/commentary/032007/TwinTowers.shtml



And quite a few more:



http://911proof.com/10.html



More yet:



http://11syyskuu.blogspot.com/2006/02/destruction-of-wtc-7.html



And a couple hundred more:



http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html











--



http://911research.wtc7.net

http://www.911truth.org

http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html





Here`s what happens to steel framed buildings exposed

to raging infernos for hours on end.



http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html



On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which

had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry

at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled

demolition.



http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html

http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm



Ever wonder who benefits from the 700 MILLION

U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21



"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And

there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to

take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons

who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of

warfare or morality."

-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.

http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm



http://www.commondreams.org/

http://thirdworldtraveler.com/



"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things

that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.



"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,

or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is

not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable

to the American public."

-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)



Don`t let bu$h do to the United States what his very close

friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...









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Subject: Re: !! Architects ad Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
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Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:31:59 -0400
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S`mee wrote:

> I`ll glady tell everyone of them face to face they are full of SHIT
> and haven`t a CLUE about which they speak. Their math is wrong, the
> logistics are not only wrong but untenable AND let`s face it the
> current crop of civil servents and administration hacks aren`t capable
> of carrying off somthing on that scale with any effectiveness without
> the dirty little details coming out.

Of course the Bush regime and it`s followers are wrong about
9-11 - just as their lies about Iraq are wrong. What took you
so long to realize this? Anyway, welcome to the side of expert
research, physics, reality, truth, and justice.

> OBTW you going to come by this summer? Ask those who know I`ll be more
> than civil AND I know where the best burgers in the state are made.
> Heck I`d love to take you to the two best breweries in the state for
> that matter! I`d be a hoot and lots of fun. Heck I`ll even show you a
> couple of roads that make the tail of the dragon look like a driveway!

Coming by where and when, exactly?



http://911blogger.com/node/14549


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From: Henry
Subject: Re: !! Architects ad Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
investigation !!
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:11:47 -0400
Organization: Cornell University
Lines: 384
Sender: hhh3(at)cornell.invalid








S`mee wrote:
> On Mar 30, 7:31 am, Henry wrote:

>> Coming by where and when, exactly?

> When?: Summer

> Where: NW Montana on the east side of the divide. Mind the antelope
> when you cross the state.

Hmm. That would be a very long ride, but I`ll bet it`s pretty
country. Tell ya what, you stop by the beautiful Finger Lakes
region of Central NY, and I`ll give you a taste of The Good
Life and a tour of The Most Enlightened City in The United States.
We`ve got national award winning local wines, and Rachel is a damn
good cook!

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18933.htm


9/11 Truth Manifesto

By Joel S. Hirschhorn

12/20/07 "ICH" -- -- For evidence that America?s political system is a
criminal conspiracy, open your mind to piles of new analyses that prove
beyond doubt that the official 9/11 story is a lie. Years of a
bipartisan cover-up of 9/11 lies make it much more than one horrendous
past event. It endures in infamy as a symptom of a corrupt and
dishonest government.


Every day we pay for what 9/11 and its cover-up have burdened us with,
including the costly Iraq war and the erosion of the rule of law and
constitutional rights. Power elites have suppressed the truth because
they fear what will happen when the public understands that 9/11 was not
accomplished solely by foreign terrorists.



Technically sound analyses of what happened at the World Trade Center
have unequivocally shown that the official 9/11 story is not credible
(www.ae911truth.org). Truth seekers have met their burden of proof; the
government has not met theirs. Simply put, controlled demolition
brought down three buildings, not fires from the impact of planes on two
of them. Not only was the US government involved, it has also conspired
to hide the truth from the public. Why? Republican and Democratic
politicians and power elites fear that 9/11 truth will remove what
little public trust remains in government. The truth will produce
political instability, perhaps breaking the two-party stranglehold on
our political system. And it should. And it must, if we are to finally
obtain the deep political reforms our nation desperately needs.



The decline started before George W. Bush and his criminal
co-conspirators accelerated it with their blatant disregard for the rule
of law and our Constitution. It will continue, even with a Democratic
administration, unless we reform our political system. We must remind
Americans that our nation was born in an insurrectionist, populist
rebellion against political tyranny ? and that 9/11 teaches us that we
need a Second American Revolution. We must destroy the domestic Axis of
Arrogance of our plutocracy more than fear a foreign Axis of Evil. How?



A vast nationwide grassroots 9/11 truth movement is ignored by the
mainstream news media. Its success will be the catalyst for renewing
American democracy. It will produce a shock wave that rattles the
brains of all Americans: Shock therapy from a truth so powerful and
unsettling that Americans finally see the decline of American democracy
that allowed 9/11 and its cover-up.



Make no mistake, the 9/11 truth movement holds the future of the United
States. We are not subversive ?conspiracy theorists? or enablers of
foreign terrorism. We are patriotic warriors working to nullify group
delusion produced by government propaganda. Dozens of books and
websites reveal countless technical contradictions and inconsistencies
with the official government 9/11 story and the laws of physics. The
weight of the evidence supports one painful verdict: Our federal
government played a role, probably through a large ?black op.? The
?why? is obvious: To justify an unjust war to serve corporate interests
and greed.



Here is our opportunity: To make 9/11 the tipping point for American
democracy renewal. Our enemies fear that if this movement succeeds,
their plutocratic, elitist cabal ? the Axis of Arrogance ? run by the
two-party duopoly will collapse. Corruption keeps our political system
stable ? truth must clean it up. Instability is the necessary price for
restoring democracy.



A Paradigm Shift



9/11 lies have sustained the ruling terrorism-threat paradigm. 9/11
truth must energize a new political-reform paradigm. Patriotism framed
as defending the nation against terrorism must be replaced by patriotism
focused on repairing American democracy.



Already, status quo protectionists lie about us to defeat our movement.
Things will get worse as our movement draws closer to bringing down
the corrupt political system. And we are getting closer. Only 16
percent of Americans believe that members of the Bush administration are
telling the truth about what they knew about terrorist attacks on the US
prior to 9/11, according to a New York Times/CBS News poll. But what
people say in polls is not the same as coming out publicly and
vociferously for 9/11 truth, or seeing the roots of 9/11 in the decay of
American democracy, not merely the actions of a few evil people.



The deceived public must be re-educated to see the arrogant power elites
running our national plutocracy as worse than radical Islamic
terrorists. Paul Craig Roberts captured the essence of the problem:
?Americans think their danger is terrorists. They don`t understand the
terrorists cannot take away habeas corpus, the Bill of Rights, the
Constitution. ... The terrorists are not anything like the threat that
we face to the Bill of Rights and the Constitution from our own
government in the name of fighting terrorism. Americans just aren`t
able to perceive that.?



9/11 is a history lesson to inform the nation about democracy decline.
As John McMurtry asked, ?So which goes - the faith in America?s
greatness and goodness in the world, or the facts which disclose the
opposite at the very top?? We must always remember that Americans are
better than their government. They do not get the government they
deserve. They get the government that the rich and powerful impose.
That must end.



We confront more than power elites. There is psychological resistance
of millions of Americans to painful 9/11 truth ? a shameful,
?unthinkable? truth about their elected government. Even if they have
doubts about the official story, they instinctively recoil and erect
mental barriers to block out the full truth. They want to keep
believing that they live in a great democracy. They want to believe
that when the Bush administration is replaced our democracy will be in
good shape again. Hard to accept that 9/11 truth could not have been
suppressed this long without the tacit or explicit approval of
Democratic politicians and power brokers.



It is as if we are telling children that their parents are mass
murderers. Distracted, time-poor, depressed, political disengaged,
cynical and insecure Americans do not want to hear that their government
had a hand in 9/11. That for years their two-party-controlled
government has blatantly lied to them. That thousands of good Americans
have died and been terribly injured in a war propped up by the
false-flag 9/11 fiction. In sum, that despite elections a vast criminal
conspiracy has been so successful for so long. Such thoughts hurt.



Also, political instability is scary to ordinary Americans. But
stability based on corruption and lies is destructive. Only when
Americans see 9/11 as a political attack (by Americans on Americans) ?
not solely a terrorist attack (by foreigners on Americans) ? will they
understand that revealing 9/11 truth must lead to major political
reforms. Instability is the cost of democracy renewal.



Here are powerful messages: The collapse of the rule of law is more
important than the collapse of buildings. Countless more have died
because of 9/11 than on 9/11. The events of 9/11 ultimately are less
important than the reasons for and consequences of 9/11.



As John McMurtry said, ?[9/11] allowed an illegitimate administration to
transmute into America?s patriotic champion at war - above
accountability and the rule of law. ?Defending America from another
terrorist attack? became a political blank check for corporate
corruption of government expenditures with impunity, war criminal acts
and threats across the Islamic and alternative third world, and attacks
on civil rights and commons at home.? All this persists as 9/11 lies
persist.



Despite record-low levels of public trust in Congress and the president,
too many Americans still believe that elections are the path to major
political reforms. Despite a solid history of campaign lies from
politicians, and overwhelming belief that the nation is on the wrong
track, Americans keep hoping that they can vote their way into a better
future. Most Americans do not have a Boston Tea Party mentality. They
are unready to revolt despite revolting conditions. Our truth movement
must help Americans accept painful truth and its political fallout. We
must put all the technical truth discovered by reputable scientists and
engineers to work for systemic reforms.



We must do more than oust the official story and obtain a new 9/11
investigation that now has wide support by hundreds of respected
Americans (www.patriotsquestion911.com). We must guide Americans into a
more patriotic and courageous mental state. We must help Americans
become outraged and rebellious, yet also optimistic about major
political reforms.



Political Strategy



Success against the power elites running and ruining our nation requires
building an army of Americans openly revolting against the two-party
corporatist state now in control. The 9/11 truth movement must use
political strategies to defeat the status quo political establishment.
Here are three actions.



First, with detailed technical analyses unequivocally proving that the
official story is false, the movement can draft a bill that might be
titled The 9/11 Truth Act of 2008. This proposed federal legislation
should be delivered to every member of the House and Senate early next
year. It would clarify the investigation: What its scope and objectives
must be. What reliable entity, public or private or a combination, must
be used. How the public must be given opportunities to present
information. What resources must be provided and what time frame must
be adhered to.



We must take the initiative and specify exactly what kind of new
official 9/11 investigation is necessary, recognizing that professionals
in the truth movement have limited resources and cannot address all
questions. The 9/11 truth movement itself must define exactly what the
first real credible and comprehensive government sponsored investigation
must consist of. We can have no confidence in anything that the
political establishment might devise to silence our movement. We must
tell the public, the media and the political world what is required to
reveal the total truth as to what caused, for example, the collapse of
three World Trade Center buildings, especially building 7 not even hit
by a plane.



Developing and submitting this legislation must then be followed up by
all 9/11 groups urging their supporters to bombard Congress with demands
for hearings and passage of the bill. This is the way to engage more
Americans politically to obtain full 9/11 truth.



However, few politicians? comments support the truth movement. A rare
statement came from presidential candidate Ron Paul. In a radio
interview in January, 2007 he said that the 9/11 investigations to date
are ?more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on.?
However, later in the year when he became more visible he was asked
about the possibility of the official story being orchestrated by the
government. He said emphatically ?absolutely not.? In another
interview, when asked whether he thought 9/11 was an inside job that our
government made happen, he responded forcefully ?No.? So apparently
Paul sees a cover-up but not about the involvement of our government.
Would he support legislation for a new investigation?



Thus the second critical political action is this: Proclaim that only
politicians that actively support passage of our legislation will earn
support in the 2008 elections from the millions of Americans doubting
the official 9/11 story. This threat is an absolute necessity. If the
legislation is not passed by Congress and signed into law by President
Bush, then we must aggressively support a boycott on voting for all
Democrats and Republicans in the 2008 federal elections.



Third, all those committed to 9/11 truth should honor what the Founders
gave us in our Constitution in case some day Americans lost confidence
in the federal government, especially in Congress. That day has
arrived. 9/11 was that day. They gave us the option in Article V for a
convention of state delegates to propose constitutional amendments. We
must see SYSTEM reforms as only achievable through constitutional
amendments that Congress will never propose nor achieve through normal
legislation.



Congress and the entire elitist political establishment have
intentionally denied us a convention for over 200 years. The one and
only requirement in Article V has more than been satisfied by over 500
state applications from all 50 states. Enough is enough. Our truth
movement should join the effort of Friends of the Article V Convention
at www.foavc.org by urging truth group members to join FOAVC. The
political establishment fears both 9/11 truth and an Article V
convention. We must grasp that 9/11 truth can bring us to the brink of
political reforms and the convention is the process to obtain them.



Conclusion



The 9/11 truth movement must also be a political movement ? but not in
any partisan sense. 9/11 truth can help Americans take back their
country. 9/11 truth can end the criminal, corrupt and conniving
plutocracy that stole our government and mutilated our democracy.



We must transform 9/11 from a catalyzing event for imperialistic
war-mongering to one for democracy renewal. We must convert
terrorist-transfixed fear into political reform enthusiasm.


The pursuit of truth is not always the pursuit of happiness ? not when
the truth hurts. The 9/11 truth movement is not about finding immediate
happiness. It is about rebooting American democracy and, after
accomplishing that, earning happiness.

A former full professor of engineering at the University of Wisconsin,
Madison, and then senior official with the Congressional Office of
Technology Assessment and the National Governors Association, Joel S.
Hirschhorn is now an activist writer and can be reached through
www.delusionaldemocracy.com. This article is based on presentations
given at a recent conference sponsored by Boston 9/11 Truth.



--

http://911research.wtc7.net
http://www.911truth.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html


Here`s what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm

Ever wonder who benefits from the 700 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don`t let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...




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From: Rob Kleinschmidt
Subject: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:31:57 -0700 (PDT)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
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On Mar 27, 12:03 pm, Henry wrote:

Flaming bunch of paranoid buffoons too lazy to check their facts.

> These include James Quintiere, Ph.D., former Chief of the Fire Science
> Division of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST),
> who last year said that "the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is
> questionable."
>
> "Let`s look at real alternatives that might have been the cause of the
> collapse of the World Trade Towers and how that relates to the official
> cause and what`s the significance of one cause versus another," he added.

Quintiere questions only the exact way in which the fire caused
the failure.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7236

James Quintiere, of the University of Maryland, US, says he does not
understand how fireproof insulation could have been dislodged from
the buildings` floors and columns.

"Everything I see points to the fact that there may not have been
enough
insulation," he told New Scientist, adding that the fuel loads used in
the
report`s calculations may have been too low.

> Charles Pegelow, BS CE ? Civil Engineer with more than 25 years
> experience in structural design and analysis and project management of
> construction of major projects, including large steel structures, also
> added his support to a new inquiry.

Pegelow worked on oil rig desgn. No experience on building
construction
since his first job out of college, 1972-1974. Check his resume.

http://911blogger.com/node/2257

Do sod off please.




Title: No Lion Award For Representative Alan Grayson
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:47:09 +0000
Author: Ric

The Lion regrets to announce that he will not be giving Florida Representative Alan Grayson, a Democrat, an award for his actions on the floor of the House of Representatives.

Here’s the video of his presentation on the floor:

The Republicans, highly offended that anyone dared speak the truth about them in public, demanded that Representative Grayson apologize, comparing his remarks to the offensive act of Georgia Representative Joe Wilson, a Republican, who yelled ‘You lie!’ at President Barack Obama during the latter’s speech to a joint session of Congress recently.

Representative Grayson immediately accommodated the Republicans with an apology:


More on: http://grumpylion.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/no-lion-award-for-representative-alan-grayson/











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