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Re: !! Architects ad Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11

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Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:31:59 -0400

Organization: Cornell University

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S`mee wrote:



> I`ll glady tell everyone of them face to face they are full of SHIT

> and haven`t a CLUE about which they speak. Their math is wrong, the

> logistics are not only wrong but untenable AND let`s face it the

> current crop of civil servents and administration hacks aren`t capable

> of carrying off somthing on that scale with any effectiveness without

> the dirty little details coming out.



Of course the Bush regime and it`s followers are wrong about

9-11 - just as their lies about Iraq are wrong. What took you

so long to realize this? Anyway, welcome to the side of expert

research, physics, reality, truth, and justice.



> OBTW you going to come by this summer? Ask those who know I`ll be more

> than civil AND I know where the best burgers in the state are made.

> Heck I`d love to take you to the two best breweries in the state for

> that matter! I`d be a hoot and lots of fun. Heck I`ll even show you a

> couple of roads that make the tail of the dragon look like a driveway!



Coming by where and when, exactly?







http://911blogger.com/node/14549











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From: Henry
Subject: Re: !! Architects ad Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
investigation !!
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:11:47 -0400
Organization: Cornell University
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Sender: hhh3(at)cornell.invalid








S`mee wrote:
> On Mar 30, 7:31 am, Henry wrote:

>> Coming by where and when, exactly?

> When?: Summer

> Where: NW Montana on the east side of the divide. Mind the antelope
> when you cross the state.

Hmm. That would be a very long ride, but I`ll bet it`s pretty
country. Tell ya what, you stop by the beautiful Finger Lakes
region of Central NY, and I`ll give you a taste of The Good
Life and a tour of The Most Enlightened City in The United States.
We`ve got national award winning local wines, and Rachel is a damn
good cook!

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18933.htm


9/11 Truth Manifesto

By Joel S. Hirschhorn

12/20/07 "ICH" -- -- For evidence that America?s political system is a
criminal conspiracy, open your mind to piles of new analyses that prove
beyond doubt that the official 9/11 story is a lie. Years of a
bipartisan cover-up of 9/11 lies make it much more than one horrendous
past event. It endures in infamy as a symptom of a corrupt and
dishonest government.


Every day we pay for what 9/11 and its cover-up have burdened us with,
including the costly Iraq war and the erosion of the rule of law and
constitutional rights. Power elites have suppressed the truth because
they fear what will happen when the public understands that 9/11 was not
accomplished solely by foreign terrorists.



Technically sound analyses of what happened at the World Trade Center
have unequivocally shown that the official 9/11 story is not credible
(www.ae911truth.org). Truth seekers have met their burden of proof; the
government has not met theirs. Simply put, controlled demolition
brought down three buildings, not fires from the impact of planes on two
of them. Not only was the US government involved, it has also conspired
to hide the truth from the public. Why? Republican and Democratic
politicians and power elites fear that 9/11 truth will remove what
little public trust remains in government. The truth will produce
political instability, perhaps breaking the two-party stranglehold on
our political system. And it should. And it must, if we are to finally
obtain the deep political reforms our nation desperately needs.



The decline started before George W. Bush and his criminal
co-conspirators accelerated it with their blatant disregard for the rule
of law and our Constitution. It will continue, even with a Democratic
administration, unless we reform our political system. We must remind
Americans that our nation was born in an insurrectionist, populist
rebellion against political tyranny ? and that 9/11 teaches us that we
need a Second American Revolution. We must destroy the domestic Axis of
Arrogance of our plutocracy more than fear a foreign Axis of Evil. How?



A vast nationwide grassroots 9/11 truth movement is ignored by the
mainstream news media. Its success will be the catalyst for renewing
American democracy. It will produce a shock wave that rattles the
brains of all Americans: Shock therapy from a truth so powerful and
unsettling that Americans finally see the decline of American democracy
that allowed 9/11 and its cover-up.



Make no mistake, the 9/11 truth movement holds the future of the United
States. We are not subversive ?conspiracy theorists? or enablers of
foreign terrorism. We are patriotic warriors working to nullify group
delusion produced by government propaganda. Dozens of books and
websites reveal countless technical contradictions and inconsistencies
with the official government 9/11 story and the laws of physics. The
weight of the evidence supports one painful verdict: Our federal
government played a role, probably through a large ?black op.? The
?why? is obvious: To justify an unjust war to serve corporate interests
and greed.



Here is our opportunity: To make 9/11 the tipping point for American
democracy renewal. Our enemies fear that if this movement succeeds,
their plutocratic, elitist cabal ? the Axis of Arrogance ? run by the
two-party duopoly will collapse. Corruption keeps our political system
stable ? truth must clean it up. Instability is the necessary price for
restoring democracy.



A Paradigm Shift



9/11 lies have sustained the ruling terrorism-threat paradigm. 9/11
truth must energize a new political-reform paradigm. Patriotism framed
as defending the nation against terrorism must be replaced by patriotism
focused on repairing American democracy.



Already, status quo protectionists lie about us to defeat our movement.
Things will get worse as our movement draws closer to bringing down
the corrupt political system. And we are getting closer. Only 16
percent of Americans believe that members of the Bush administration are
telling the truth about what they knew about terrorist attacks on the US
prior to 9/11, according to a New York Times/CBS News poll. But what
people say in polls is not the same as coming out publicly and
vociferously for 9/11 truth, or seeing the roots of 9/11 in the decay of
American democracy, not merely the actions of a few evil people.



The deceived public must be re-educated to see the arrogant power elites
running our national plutocracy as worse than radical Islamic
terrorists. Paul Craig Roberts captured the essence of the problem:
?Americans think their danger is terrorists. They don`t understand the
terrorists cannot take away habeas corpus, the Bill of Rights, the
Constitution. ... The terrorists are not anything like the threat that
we face to the Bill of Rights and the Constitution from our own
government in the name of fighting terrorism. Americans just aren`t
able to perceive that.?



9/11 is a history lesson to inform the nation about democracy decline.
As John McMurtry asked, ?So which goes - the faith in America?s
greatness and goodness in the world, or the facts which disclose the
opposite at the very top?? We must always remember that Americans are
better than their government. They do not get the government they
deserve. They get the government that the rich and powerful impose.
That must end.



We confront more than power elites. There is psychological resistance
of millions of Americans to painful 9/11 truth ? a shameful,
?unthinkable? truth about their elected government. Even if they have
doubts about the official story, they instinctively recoil and erect
mental barriers to block out the full truth. They want to keep
believing that they live in a great democracy. They want to believe
that when the Bush administration is replaced our democracy will be in
good shape again. Hard to accept that 9/11 truth could not have been
suppressed this long without the tacit or explicit approval of
Democratic politicians and power brokers.



It is as if we are telling children that their parents are mass
murderers. Distracted, time-poor, depressed, political disengaged,
cynical and insecure Americans do not want to hear that their government
had a hand in 9/11. That for years their two-party-controlled
government has blatantly lied to them. That thousands of good Americans
have died and been terribly injured in a war propped up by the
false-flag 9/11 fiction. In sum, that despite elections a vast criminal
conspiracy has been so successful for so long. Such thoughts hurt.



Also, political instability is scary to ordinary Americans. But
stability based on corruption and lies is destructive. Only when
Americans see 9/11 as a political attack (by Americans on Americans) ?
not solely a terrorist attack (by foreigners on Americans) ? will they
understand that revealing 9/11 truth must lead to major political
reforms. Instability is the cost of democracy renewal.



Here are powerful messages: The collapse of the rule of law is more
important than the collapse of buildings. Countless more have died
because of 9/11 than on 9/11. The events of 9/11 ultimately are less
important than the reasons for and consequences of 9/11.



As John McMurtry said, ?[9/11] allowed an illegitimate administration to
transmute into America?s patriotic champion at war - above
accountability and the rule of law. ?Defending America from another
terrorist attack? became a political blank check for corporate
corruption of government expenditures with impunity, war criminal acts
and threats across the Islamic and alternative third world, and attacks
on civil rights and commons at home.? All this persists as 9/11 lies
persist.



Despite record-low levels of public trust in Congress and the president,
too many Americans still believe that elections are the path to major
political reforms. Despite a solid history of campaign lies from
politicians, and overwhelming belief that the nation is on the wrong
track, Americans keep hoping that they can vote their way into a better
future. Most Americans do not have a Boston Tea Party mentality. They
are unready to revolt despite revolting conditions. Our truth movement
must help Americans accept painful truth and its political fallout. We
must put all the technical truth discovered by reputable scientists and
engineers to work for systemic reforms.



We must do more than oust the official story and obtain a new 9/11
investigation that now has wide support by hundreds of respected
Americans (www.patriotsquestion911.com). We must guide Americans into a
more patriotic and courageous mental state. We must help Americans
become outraged and rebellious, yet also optimistic about major
political reforms.



Political Strategy



Success against the power elites running and ruining our nation requires
building an army of Americans openly revolting against the two-party
corporatist state now in control. The 9/11 truth movement must use
political strategies to defeat the status quo political establishment.
Here are three actions.



First, with detailed technical analyses unequivocally proving that the
official story is false, the movement can draft a bill that might be
titled The 9/11 Truth Act of 2008. This proposed federal legislation
should be delivered to every member of the House and Senate early next
year. It would clarify the investigation: What its scope and objectives
must be. What reliable entity, public or private or a combination, must
be used. How the public must be given opportunities to present
information. What resources must be provided and what time frame must
be adhered to.



We must take the initiative and specify exactly what kind of new
official 9/11 investigation is necessary, recognizing that professionals
in the truth movement have limited resources and cannot address all
questions. The 9/11 truth movement itself must define exactly what the
first real credible and comprehensive government sponsored investigation
must consist of. We can have no confidence in anything that the
political establishment might devise to silence our movement. We must
tell the public, the media and the political world what is required to
reveal the total truth as to what caused, for example, the collapse of
three World Trade Center buildings, especially building 7 not even hit
by a plane.



Developing and submitting this legislation must then be followed up by
all 9/11 groups urging their supporters to bombard Congress with demands
for hearings and passage of the bill. This is the way to engage more
Americans politically to obtain full 9/11 truth.



However, few politicians? comments support the truth movement. A rare
statement came from presidential candidate Ron Paul. In a radio
interview in January, 2007 he said that the 9/11 investigations to date
are ?more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on.?
However, later in the year when he became more visible he was asked
about the possibility of the official story being orchestrated by the
government. He said emphatically ?absolutely not.? In another
interview, when asked whether he thought 9/11 was an inside job that our
government made happen, he responded forcefully ?No.? So apparently
Paul sees a cover-up but not about the involvement of our government.
Would he support legislation for a new investigation?



Thus the second critical political action is this: Proclaim that only
politicians that actively support passage of our legislation will earn
support in the 2008 elections from the millions of Americans doubting
the official 9/11 story. This threat is an absolute necessity. If the
legislation is not passed by Congress and signed into law by President
Bush, then we must aggressively support a boycott on voting for all
Democrats and Republicans in the 2008 federal elections.



Third, all those committed to 9/11 truth should honor what the Founders
gave us in our Constitution in case some day Americans lost confidence
in the federal government, especially in Congress. That day has
arrived. 9/11 was that day. They gave us the option in Article V for a
convention of state delegates to propose constitutional amendments. We
must see SYSTEM reforms as only achievable through constitutional
amendments that Congress will never propose nor achieve through normal
legislation.



Congress and the entire elitist political establishment have
intentionally denied us a convention for over 200 years. The one and
only requirement in Article V has more than been satisfied by over 500
state applications from all 50 states. Enough is enough. Our truth
movement should join the effort of Friends of the Article V Convention
at www.foavc.org by urging truth group members to join FOAVC. The
political establishment fears both 9/11 truth and an Article V
convention. We must grasp that 9/11 truth can bring us to the brink of
political reforms and the convention is the process to obtain them.



Conclusion



The 9/11 truth movement must also be a political movement ? but not in
any partisan sense. 9/11 truth can help Americans take back their
country. 9/11 truth can end the criminal, corrupt and conniving
plutocracy that stole our government and mutilated our democracy.



We must transform 9/11 from a catalyzing event for imperialistic
war-mongering to one for democracy renewal. We must convert
terrorist-transfixed fear into political reform enthusiasm.


The pursuit of truth is not always the pursuit of happiness ? not when
the truth hurts. The 9/11 truth movement is not about finding immediate
happiness. It is about rebooting American democracy and, after
accomplishing that, earning happiness.

A former full professor of engineering at the University of Wisconsin,
Madison, and then senior official with the Congressional Office of
Technology Assessment and the National Governors Association, Joel S.
Hirschhorn is now an activist writer and can be reached through
www.delusionaldemocracy.com. This article is based on presentations
given at a recent conference sponsored by Boston 9/11 Truth.



--

http://911research.wtc7.net
http://www.911truth.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html


Here`s what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm

Ever wonder who benefits from the 700 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don`t let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...


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From: Rob Kleinschmidt
Subject: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:31:57 -0700 (PDT)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
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On Mar 27, 12:03 pm, Henry wrote:

Flaming bunch of paranoid buffoons too lazy to check their facts.

> These include James Quintiere, Ph.D., former Chief of the Fire Science
> Division of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST),
> who last year said that "the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is
> questionable."
>
> "Let`s look at real alternatives that might have been the cause of the
> collapse of the World Trade Towers and how that relates to the official
> cause and what`s the significance of one cause versus another," he added.

Quintiere questions only the exact way in which the fire caused
the failure.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7236

James Quintiere, of the University of Maryland, US, says he does not
understand how fireproof insulation could have been dislodged from
the buildings` floors and columns.

"Everything I see points to the fact that there may not have been
enough
insulation," he told New Scientist, adding that the fuel loads used in
the
report`s calculations may have been too low.

> Charles Pegelow, BS CE ? Civil Engineer with more than 25 years
> experience in structural design and analysis and project management of
> construction of major projects, including large steel structures, also
> added his support to a new inquiry.

Pegelow worked on oil rig desgn. No experience on building
construction
since his first job out of college, 1972-1974. Check his resume.

http://911blogger.com/node/2257

Do sod off please.




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From: "Road Glidin` Don"
Subject: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:40:28 -0700 (PDT)
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On Mar 27, 2:03=A0pm, Henry wrote:



After 7 years of posting non-stop on this one subject and not
persuading even one person here about your conspiracy theory, isn`t
the answer obvious now, Henry?

We`re all in on it!

This newsgroup is an elaborate ruse, created by the American
government and monitored by CIA agents in preparation for the 9/11
plot, as a way of siphoning away what`s left of your sanity. We drink
your milk shake. We drink it all! Bwa ha haa haaaaaa!




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