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Subject:
Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11

investigation !!

Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:31:57 -0700 (PDT)

Organization: http://groups.google.com

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On Mar 27, 12:03 pm, Henry <9...(at)insidejob.gov> wrote:



Flaming bunch of paranoid buffoons too lazy to check their facts.



> These include James Quintiere, Ph.D., former Chief of the Fire Science

> Division of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST),

> who last year said that "the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is

> questionable."

>

> "Let`s look at real alternatives that might have been the cause of the

> collapse of the World Trade Towers and how that relates to the official

> cause and what`s the significance of one cause versus another," he added.



Quintiere questions only the exact way in which the fire caused

the failure.



http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7236



James Quintiere, of the University of Maryland, US, says he does not

understand how fireproof insulation could have been dislodged from

the buildings` floors and columns.



"Everything I see points to the fact that there may not have been

enough

insulation," he told New Scientist, adding that the fuel loads used in

the

report`s calculations may have been too low.



> Charles Pegelow, BS CE ? Civil Engineer with more than 25 years

> experience in structural design and analysis and project management of

> construction of major projects, including large steel structures, also

> added his support to a new inquiry.



Pegelow worked on oil rig desgn. No experience on building

construction

since his first job out of college, 1972-1974. Check his resume.



http://911blogger.com/node/2257



Do sod off please.











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From: "Road Glidin` Don"
Subject: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
investigation !!
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:40:28 -0700 (PDT)
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On Mar 27, 2:03=A0pm, Henry wrote:



After 7 years of posting non-stop on this one subject and not
persuading even one person here about your conspiracy theory, isn`t
the answer obvious now, Henry?

We`re all in on it!

This newsgroup is an elaborate ruse, created by the American
government and monitored by CIA agents in preparation for the 9/11
plot, as a way of siphoning away what`s left of your sanity. We drink
your milk shake. We drink it all! Bwa ha haa haaaaaa!


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From: jcon
Subject: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
investigation !!
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:59:56 -0700 (PDT)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
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On Mar 27, 3:03 pm, Henry wrote:
>
> http://911research.wtc7.net

Note "donate" button in upper right corner

> http://www.911truth.org

Note "support" link in *two* locations near the top,
just so you don`t miss them.

> http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html

The "store" link at the top promotes 911 truth
related items - like freeze dried spaghetti (huh?)

Nice to see they`ve got their priorities straight.

-jc




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SUBJECT: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
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From: Rob Kleinschmidt
Subject: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
investigation !!
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:27:29 -0700 (PDT)
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On Mar 27, 12:40 pm, "Road Glidin` Don" wrote:
> On Mar 27, 2:03 pm, Henry wrote:
>
>
>
> After 7 years of posting non-stop on this one subject and not
> persuading even one person here about your conspiracy theory, isn`t
> the answer obvious now, Henry?
>
> We`re all in on it!
>
> This newsgroup is an elaborate ruse, created by the American
> government and monitored by CIA agents in preparation for the 9/11
> plot, as a way of siphoning away what`s left of your sanity. We drink
> your milk shake. We drink it all! Bwa ha haa haaaaaa!

A far flung conspiracy of rich and poor, right and left, old
and young, black and white, etc. In short, pretty much
everybody who`s anybody is in on it.

I shouldn`t have to remind you though not to talk
about it in front of you know who. Please try to be
more careful in the future.




Title: The Right - Doubling Down On Denial
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:47:28 +0000
Author: greedheadswine

In New York right now, the GOP is engaging in some public internecine warfare. The vote comes tomorrow and the GOP is urging its base to choose the more “conservative” of the two. In the automated phone calls that voters are subjected to, the following snippet can be heard:

Blah Blah Blah. Liberals suck – or something like that; and then: “Or do you believe in Republican conservative values, like thrift, personal responsibility, and family? Let’s tell the liberals, enough is enough.” – these calls went out in order to talk Republicans into not voting for the moderate one – i.e. not a dipshit – in favor of the hard-liner – i.e. demagogue fool.

You might not know this, and I didn’t either, but apparently one of the conservative values is Thrift. Who knew the Republicans were so concerned about saving money? They quadrupled the size of government; they spent a trillion dollars in Iraq; and they seem to be made up almost entirely of extremely rich bigots. And it’s been a long long time since an elected Republican showed much concern for thrift. I doubt there are too many Republicans eating Ramen soup to save money. Another conservative value? Personal Responsibility. This doesn’t seem to hold water either. In fact, right now the two individuals personally responsible for the current state of this country are in deeper denial than Pete Rose. Neither Dick Cheney nor George Bush have taken responsibility for a single misstep on anything. Not torture. Not the economy. Or making a huge leap towards socialism by buying into our country’s largest – and most incompetent – banks. Instead of taking responsibility, they choose to “not recall” what they did. Family. The conservatives claim this value to be firmly within their grasp. Yet it’s the Obamas who seem to be actually living this value conservatives hold so dear. We’ve seen a parade of Republicans fall on their family-value faces over the last year: whether it’s a governor hiking the Appalachian Trail in South America or a Senator going out of his way to find employment for his mistress’ boyfriend.

There comes a time when people wake up and realize that actions really do speak louder than words. You can claim something great in your mission statement  (you can bet Bernie Madoff didn’t have Ponzi Scheme anywhere in his mission statement); but if you can’t back it up, it’s time to change your tune. It’s time to rebrand yourself and start anew. For the Republicans, they can go one of two ways. They can either double-down on their current tactics of hypocrisy and latent racism – “Or do you believe in Republican conservative values, like largesse, cronyism and white supremacy?” – or they can come up with an actual viable alternative to what the democrats are doing. This is a two-party system we have. Republicans might want to at least try and make a play for being the second one.

The only way they are going to do that is communicate honestly on a platform that people can actually believe. Personally, I’m not holding my breath.


More on: http://greedheadswine.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/the-right-doubling-down-on-denial/











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