> > the info, use the best formulas, best computer models (their words)
> > and continually come to the WRONG conclusion.
>
> > HOW can the be so dang stupid?
>
> =A0 WTF? The experts are coming to the right conclusion. There
> is no longer any reasonable doubt that 9-11 was an inside
> job. Here`s a partial list. Got even *one* expert who can
> explain WTC7`s free fall speed and symmtric drop yet? Seems
> like seven years would be enough time to find just *one*....
>
I read those, I even understand them adn frankly they come to some
spurious ignorant fantasies imo and in my experience.
How many CREDABLE demolition experts say it can be done the wya you
claim? Not a one that`s how many and those are the people to ask.
Engineers build, demo destroies.
Your so called experts are full of shit.
--
Kieth S
SUBJECT: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
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From: Rob Kleinschmidt
Subject: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
investigation !!
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
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On Mar 30, 6:22=A0pm, Henry wrote:
> =A0 I notice that you`re again trying to avoid the facts and
> evidence by impotently "attacking" the messenger. Apparently,
> the founder ofhttp://ae911truth.org/and the 300 plus members
> haven`t written anything that you can quote as misleaidig or
> innaccurate.
I`m suggesting that the people you present as
"experts" aren`t.
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From: Rob Kleinschmidt
Subject: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
investigation !!
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:10:04 -0700 (PDT)
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On Mar 30, 7:47=A0pm, Henry wrote:
> Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
> > People like Quintierre will find problems with parts of the
> > analysis and sugest alternatives.
>
> > Start with the credentials of the nist team
> >http://wtc.nist.gov/pi/
>
> =A0 Why aren`t Thomas Eagar`s blatant errors mentioned by
> his peers on the NISTY team?
I think the NIST team was tasked with a report
on the collapse, not on an investigation of Eager.
Their report has also been reviewed by faculties
and working engineers all over the world. Eager
is a straw man.
> > and compare them with this guy Gage, whose
> > career seems to be building sandwich shops
> > and gymnasiums.
>
> =A0 Does Gage provide any facts or evidence as blatantly
> wrong as Eagar`s? Does he provide any facts or evdidence
> that you disagree with? If so, what?
>
The accusation that the ISCE is participating in a
conspiracy. This would pretty much require world
wide assistance from their colleagues and peers
as well as their entire membership.
Questioning an analysis is how we learn. Making
wildass conspiracy accusations is not. When
the people making these accusations don`t have
the credentials that would get them a job or permit
a reasonable analysis, I would call that irresponsible.
> > I would not attempt to explain the exact causes of the
> > collapse, though perhaps somebody in the Cornell
> > school of engineering might walk you through it if
> > you asked nicely.
>
> =A0 I already tried. They won`t discuss it. But that was last year.
> I`ll try again.
I think we can safely assume they don`t agree with
you or take you seriously, possibly because they
see you as accusing their friends and colleagues
of a coverup with no reasonable basis for that accusation.
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From: "S`mee"
Subject: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
investigation !!
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:11:52 -0700 (PDT)
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On Mar 30, 9:51=A0pm, Henry wrote:
> S`mee wrote:
> > Henry bring those loons ALL 300 with you. I`ll use small words that a
> > 8th grader will understand.
>
> =A0 Use them here and now to explain the sudden explosive
> disintegration of the undamaged side of WTC2`s perimeter
> frame.
>
> =A0 Observe the rotating and disintegrating block on the South
> Tower.
>
> =A0http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc2exp4.html
Yep typical when you loose STRENGTH in more than one pillar on one
side. At which time structures typically twist and collapse. Heat
causes steel to loose strength...
> =A0 Notice that the corners are curved, as the block`s internal
> destruction is already taking place. If it had not been destroyed
> through demolition, it would have continued to rotate and fall off
> the building as an intact block. Also, notice that the block is
> tilting towards the corner where it was impacted. The opposite
> corner was undamaged by impact or fire, as proved by photo
> evidence.
>
> =A0http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc2exp1.html
See my above answer.
> =A0 As the top section of that tower is rotating, the high strength,
> fire resistant perimeter columns on one side of the building are
> being compressed, and on the opposite side, where the building
> was not damaged by fire or impact, the weight above them is greatly
> reduced.
Actually they are not only compressing they are DEFLECTING to the side
IF you could see you`d note most collums bend the same direction.
> =A0 Why do you think the undamaged steel perimeter frame with reduced
> weight above it is exploding and collapsing at the same rate as
> the fire and impact damaged side that has most of the weight of the
> rotating block on it? Seems more than a little odd, doesn`t it? Here`s
> some information on the perimeter columns.
>
What reduced weight? Were did it go? It was all still THERE.
> =A0http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/perimeter.html
So? Their research never has involved any practical exercises on a
true full scale. Not only that...the perimeter beams all performed
exactly to specification at which point the failure state kicked in
and everything fell down much like these rather specieous claims from
the truth nutters.
--
Keith S
Sorry about your invisible friend and the straw man...everybody has to
grow up.
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:59:42 +0000
Author: C. S. Burks, Esq.
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