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Subject:
Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11

investigation !!

Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:11:52 -0700 (PDT)

Organization: http://groups.google.com

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On Mar 30, 9:51=A0pm, Henry <9...(at)insidejob.gov> wrote:

> S`mee wrote:

> > Henry bring those loons ALL 300 with you. I`ll use small words that a

> > 8th grader will understand.

>

> =A0 Use them here and now to explain the sudden explosive

> disintegration of the undamaged side of WTC2`s perimeter

> frame.

>

> =A0 Observe the rotating and disintegrating block on the South

> Tower.

>

> =A0http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc2exp4.html



Yep typical when you loose STRENGTH in more than one pillar on one

side. At which time structures typically twist and collapse. Heat

causes steel to loose strength...



> =A0 Notice that the corners are curved, as the block`s internal

> destruction is already taking place. If it had not been destroyed

> through demolition, it would have continued to rotate and fall off

> the building as an intact block. Also, notice that the block is

> tilting towards the corner where it was impacted. The opposite

> corner was undamaged by impact or fire, as proved by photo

> evidence.

>

> =A0http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc2exp1.html



See my above answer.



> =A0 As the top section of that tower is rotating, the high strength,

> fire resistant perimeter columns on one side of the building are

> being compressed, and on the opposite side, where the building

> was not damaged by fire or impact, the weight above them is greatly

> reduced.





Actually they are not only compressing they are DEFLECTING to the side

IF you could see you`d note most collums bend the same direction.



> =A0 Why do you think the undamaged steel perimeter frame with reduced

> weight above it is exploding and collapsing at the same rate as

> the fire and impact damaged side that has most of the weight of the

> rotating block on it? Seems more than a little odd, doesn`t it? Here`s

> some information on the perimeter columns.

>



What reduced weight? Were did it go? It was all still THERE.



> =A0http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/perimeter.html



So? Their research never has involved any practical exercises on a

true full scale. Not only that...the perimeter beams all performed

exactly to specification at which point the failure state kicked in

and everything fell down much like these rather specieous claims from

the truth nutters.



--

Keith S

Sorry about your invisible friend and the straw man...everybody has to

grow up.









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SUBJECT: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
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From: Rob Kleinschmidt
Subject: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
investigation !!
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:19:34 -0700 (PDT)
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On Mar 31, 5:45 pm, Henry wrote:
> Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
> > On Mar 30, 6:22 pm, Henry wrote:
>
> >> I notice that you`re again trying to avoid the facts and
> >> evidence by impotently "attacking" the messenger. Apparently,
> >> the founder ofhttp://ae911truth.org/andthe 300 plus members
> >> haven`t written anything that you can quote as misleaidig or
> >> innaccurate.
> > I`m suggesting that the people you present as
> > "experts" aren`t.
>
> Not one of the many hundreds, eh? They`re all kooks and liars,
> and only the "experts" like your guy Eagar, who agrees with
> the Bush regime know what they`re talking about, right?

You asked if I still believed that nobody in the
structural engineering community believed your
bullshit. After examining the resumes of your "experts",
my answer is yes I still believe that.
Which of your guys would qualify in court as an
expert witness ? Which of them could get a lead
job on a high rise project.

You`ve got the NIST team and qualified engineers
all over the world in agreement with them that your
demolition theory doesn`t work.

I said a few posts back, that a smart person can change
their mind while a stupid one continues to try to argue
non-facts into existence. As everybody expected, you
continue to argue.

Several months back, you predicted a groundswell
of public opinion. How are you doing on that anyway ?

Carry on.


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SUBJECT: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
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From: Rob Kleinschmidt
Subject: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
investigation !!
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:25:15 -0700 (PDT)
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On Mar 31, 5:50=A0pm, Henry wrote:

> =A0 So the science presented by "experts" who parrot the
> Bush regime`s lies

> =A0 So, grossly misrepresenting the evidence and the basic
> principles of physics

> =A0 Can you show us just *one* of your alleged "experts"
> who addressed

But he grew old --
This knight so bold --
And -- o`er his heart a shadow
Fell as he found
No spot of ground
That looked like El Dorado.

And, as his strength
Failed him at length,
He met a pilgrim shadow --
"Shadow," said he,
"Where can it be --
This land of El Dorado?"

"Over the Mountains
Of the Moon,
Down the Valley of the Shadow,
Ride, boldly ride,"
The shade replied --
"If you seek for El Dorado."

Lotsa luck in your endeavors.




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From: Rob Kleinschmidt
Subject: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
investigation !!
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:40:48 -0700 (PDT)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
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On Apr 1, 4:05=A0pm, Henry wrote:
> Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:

> > But he grew old --
> > This knight so bold --
> > And -- o`er his heart a shadow
> > Fell as he found
> > No spot of ground
> > That looked like El Dorado.
>
> =A0 And yet another Bush parroting cartoon conspiracy
> theorist goes into meltdown when faced with an honest,
> open, and logical discussion of the facts and evidence.
> Wow, who could`ve imagined...

It`s a poem by Poe about a man doomed to
spend his life chasing an illusion.

Carry on.




Title: Obama Administration Finally Investigates Torture! . . . Oh Wait, It's In Sri Lanka
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:48:41 +0000
Author: jonathanturley

225px-official_portrait_of_barack_obamatorture -abu ghraibIt appears that there is no limit to our hypocrisy on torture. While blocking any criminal investigation or prosecution of American officials for our torture program, the Obama Administration is demanding to question the Sri Lanken Army Chief Sarath Fonseka over allegations of the torture in Sri Lanka.

The State Department is demanding answers to determine culpability for the crimes. Fonseka is visiting his daughters in Oklahoma and the US department wants him to testify against Sri Lanka’s powerful defence secretary, Gotabhaya Rajapaksa. After all, we cannot allow torture to go unpunished — so long as it is not an American official.

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More on: http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/02/obama-administration-finally-investigates-torture-oh-wait-it-is-in-sri-lanka/











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