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Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11 investigation !!

Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 22:58:23 -0700

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"Rob Kleinschmidt" wrote



> > > But he grew old --

> > > This knight so bold --

> > > And -- o`er his heart a shadow

> > > Fell as he found

> > > No spot of ground

> > > That looked like El Dorado.

>

> > And yet another Bush parroting cartoon conspiracy

> > theorist goes into meltdown when faced with an honest,

> > open, and logical discussion of the facts and evidence.

> > Wow, who could`ve imagined...



> It`s a poem by Poe about a man doomed to

> spend his life chasing an illusion.



> Carry on.



Well, let`s face it; things involving culture, education, or introspection

aren`t *exactly* Hen3ry`s strong suit.













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From: "P. Roehling"
Subject: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11 investigation !!
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 01:27:23 -0700
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wrote

>> None of theengineersin the "truth Movement` have written a paper
>> that stands up to qestions from otherengineers.
>
>> One reason may be that the authors of these papers don`t appear in
>> public meetings with any engineering group to explain and defend their
>> theories in polite expert discussion.

> That is impossible with wanks who build in New Wank City.
> Which is why the real engineers invented the computers, the robots,
> the fiber optics, the lasers, the satellites, and the C-8 for the
> air farce retards.

In these days of partisan rancor and universal brouhaha, it`s sort of
encouraging to see that with a little intensive therapy even a National
Poster Child for the Horrors of Psychoactive Drugs can recover far enough to
post on Usenet.

Maybe some day he`ll even be able to form coherent thoughts again and
actually set them down in print!


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From: "P. Roehling"
Subject: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11 investigation !!
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 18:03:48 -0700
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"Bob Cain" wrote

> Besides being a carrion eating opportunist what the hell is wrong with
> you? You have an interesting, if unappealing, disorder. Does it have a
> name?

Funny you should ask.

http://www.ocdonline.com/articlephillipson6.php




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From: Buck Mulligan
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In rec.motorcycles Henry wrote:

>Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
>> On Mar 31, 5:45 pm, Henry wrote:
>
>> You asked if I still believed that nobody in the
>> structural engineering community believed your
>> bullshit.
>
> Actually, I asked if you stand by your absurd claim
>that "Absolutely nobody in the structural engineering
>community seems to find the collapse difficult to believe."
>Given that there are over 300 members of http://www.ae911truth.org
>alone,

Wow! 300 "members"!!!

0.000099% of the population is behind you! You should be able to
convince another three hundred people before the sun finally goes
nova. [chuckle]

__________________
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http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/omegafile18.htm

The earth is flat:
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Paul is dead:
http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/

The moon landings were faked:
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html

Everyone knows 9/11 was faked:
http://www.911hoax.com/

The "face" on Mars is artificial:
http://metaresearch.org/solar%20system/cydonia/proof_files/proof.asp

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...most importantly.....


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Title: Politicians are NOT CORRUPT. Deal with it.
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:41:45 +0000
Author: JoeDuck

As a stark raving political moderate I often find myself incredibly frustrated with the tribal thinking that characterizes most of the political debate.    Most of the claims by even moderate left and moderate right about politicians (and others supposedly corrupted by money concerns) are simply garbage.

Politicians are generally honest, hard working people who  have sacrificed lucrative professions and wealth in favor of their public service.   This is true on right and left, middle and fringes.      There are reasons to fault them on many ideological grounds and debates about that are one of the great parts of our great system, but the idea that money is at the root of a politicians actions is just a nonsensical point of view.   Many don’t need money anyway as they are wealthy already:  Kerry, McCain, Bush, Cheney, Kennedy, etc etc.

However many more have foresaken wealth in favor of service to the country.    We should honor them for that even as we might disagree aggressively with policies or ideas.  We should not rant nonsensically about how they are corrupt / evil / lying / undermining the world. Leave that job to the whackos.

The funny thing is how the debate is generally so partisan in this respect.  Liberals insist Cheney was a big war profiteer  even as he gave his Halliburton options money to charity.   Far from profiting, Cheney’s decisions cost him dearly in terms of money.   As much as I never have agreed with Cheney’s  massive defense spending policies or approaches to anti-terrorism I’d hardly call him corrupt.   Or take Obama, who appears about as clean as you can be after years of dirt digging and conspiracy theorizing.   Yet detractors rant on nonsensically as if he’s got a freezer full of cash in the Whitehouse.

Exceptions? Sure there are some, but generally the “corruption” cases in the USA are hardly the scandals many make them out to be.   A favor here or there or some freebies valued at a few thousand.    One does not have to condone this to understand that it represents very little systemic threat to our great system, especially because corruptions charges here are taken so seriously that you can easily end a political career with even minor transgressions.

This aversion to corruption is a very good thing, absent in many parts of the world, and it is in part what makes our system so honest and robust.  Though unfortunately it does NOT make our spending efficient because as I’ve noted ad- nauseum here, political spending is NOT optimal spending and our honest, hard working politicians spend WAY TOO MUCH on way to many things.

—————-  more ranting follows but the point is above ————–


More on: http://joeduck.com/2009/10/25/politicians-are-not-corrupt-deal-with-it/







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