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Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11

investigation !!

Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 08:52:21 -0400

Organization: Cornell University

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Road Glidin` Don wrote:



> After 7 years of posting non-stop on this one subject and not

> persuading even one person here about your conspiracy theory, isn`t

> the answer obvious now, Henry?



Hundreds of highly credible experts have shown the

courage, intelligence and integrity to expose the

Bush regime`s lies, with more joining in as time

goes on. The Bush parrots are today`s flat earther`s.

I notice that you haven`t challenged any of the research

proving that 9-11 was an inside job.



> We drink your milk shake. We drink it all! Bwa

> ha haa haaaaaa!



Mindless kook drivel is all you kooks ever post.





http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2006/070906insidejob.htm



A 28-year CIA career man and a former skeptic of alternative 9/11

explanations has gone further than ever before in voicing his

convictions that the attacks bore the hallmarks of an inside job and

the three buildings in the WTC complex were brought down by controlled

demolition.



Bill Christison is a former senior official of the CIA. He was a

National Intelligence Officer and the Director of the CIA`s Office of

Regional and Political Analysis before his retirement in 1979. Since

then he has written numerous articles on U.S. foreign policies.



In Christison`s recent article, Stop Belittling the Theories About

September 11, he afforded credibility to the notion that "significant

parts" of the official 9/11 story were false and after careful

research he concluded that the twin towers and building 7, "were most

probably destroyed by controlled demolition charges placed in the

buildings."







http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/11/overwhelming-majority-of-credible.html



MILITARY LEADERS



Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan

(Col. Ronald D. Ray) said that the official story of 9/11 is "the dog

that doesn`t hunt" (bio)



Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" space defense program in both

Republican and Democratic administrations, who was a senior air force

colonel who flew 101 combat missions (Col. Robert Bowman) stated that

9/11 was an inside job. He also said:



"If our government had merely [done] nothing, and I say that as an

old interceptor pilot?I know the drill, I know what it takes, I know how

long it takes, I know what the procedures are, I know what they were,

and I know what they?ve changed them to?if our government had merely

done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of

9/11, the Twin Towers would still be standing and thousands of dead

Americans would still be alive. [T]hat is treason!"



U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director, decorated with the

Purple Heart, the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal (Capt. Daniel

Davis) stated:



"there is no way that an aircraft . . . would not be intercepted

when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders,

or stop communication with Air Traffic Control ... Attempts to obscure

facts by calling them a `conspiracy Theory` does not change the truth.

It seems, `Something is rotten in the State.` "



President of the U.S. Air Force Accident Investigation Board, who also

served as Pentagon Weapons Requirement Officer and as a member of the

Pentagon`s Quadrennial Defense Review, and who was awarded Distinguished

Flying Crosses for Heroism, four Air Medals, four Meritorious Service

Medals, and nine Aerial Achievement Medals (Lt. Col. Jeff Latas) is a

member of a group which doubts the government`s version of 9/11



U.S. General, Commanding General of U.S. European Command and Supreme

Allied Commander Europe, decorated with the Bronze Star, Silver Star,

and Purple Heart (General Wesley Clark) said "We`ve never finished the

investigation of 9/11 and whether the administration actually misused

the intelligence information it had. The evidence seems pretty clear to

me. I`ve seen that for a long time."



Air Force Colonel and key Pentagon official (Lt. Colonel Karen

Kwiatkowski) finds various aspects of 9/11 suspicious. She also said:

(at page 26):



"I have been told by reporters that they will not report their own

insights or contrary evaluations of the official 9/11 story, because to

question the government story about 9/11 is to question the very

foundations of our entire modern belief system regarding our government,

our country, and our way of life. [However], questioning the official

story is also simply and fundamentally American."



Lieutenant colonel, 24-year Air Force career, Vice Chancellor for

Student Affairs at the Defense Language Institute (Lt. Colonel Steve

Butler) said "Of course Bush knew about the impending attacks on

America. He did nothing to warn the American people because he needed

this war on terrorism."



Two-Star general (Major General Albert Stubbelbine) questions the attack

on the Pentagon



U.S. Air Force fighter pilot, former instructor at the USAF Fighter

Weapons School and NATO?s Tactical Leadership Program, with a 20-year

Air Force career (Lt. Colonel Guy S. Razer) said the following:



"I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were

planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have

infiltrated the highest levels of our government ....



Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the

Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and

domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid,

so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real

perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it

is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.



We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same

oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right

now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders

that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of

that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate

definition of treason!"



U.S. Marine Corps lieutenant colonel, a fighter pilot with over 300

combat missions flown and a 21-year Marine Corps career (Lt. Colonel

Shelton F. Lankford) believes that 9/11 was an inside job, and said:



"This isn`t about party, it isn`t about Bush Bashing. It`s about

our country, our constitution, and our future. ...



Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it

the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who

used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away.



If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual

information that directly contradicts the official report and who want

explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have

motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy

or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make

you? ....



Are you afraid that you will learn the truth and you can`t handle

it? ..."



U.S. Navy `Top Gun` pilot (Commander Ralph Kolstad) who questions the

official account of 9/11 and is calling for a new investigation, says

"When one starts using his own mind, and not what one was told, there is

very little to believe in the official story".



The Group Director on matters of national security in the U.S.

Government Accountability Office said that President Bush did not

respond to unprecedented warnings of the 9/11 disaster and conducted a

massive cover-up instead of accepting responsibility



Additionally, numerous military leaders from allied governments have

questioned 9/11, such as:



Canadian Minister of Defense, the top military leader of Canada (Paul

Hellyer)



Assistant German Defense Minister (Andreas Von Bulow)



Commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy (Anatoli Kornukov)



Chief of staff of the Russian armed forces (General Leonid Ivashov)



INTELLIGENCE PROFESSIONALS



Former military analyst and famed whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg recently

said that the case of a certain 9/11 whistleblower is "far more

explosive than the Pentagon Papers". He also said that the government is

ordering the media to cover up her allegations about 9/11. And he said

that some of the claims concerning government involvement in 9/11 are

credible, that "very serious questions have been raised about what they

[U.S. government officials] knew beforehand and how much involvement

there might have been", that engineering 9/11 would not be humanly or

psychologically beyond the scope of the current administration, and that

there`s enough evidence to justify a new, "hard-hitting" investigation

into 9/11 with subpoenas and testimony taken under oath.





A 27-year CIA veteran, who chaired National Intelligence Estimates and



personally delivered intelligence briefings to Presidents Ronald Reagan

and George H.W. Bush, their Vice Presidents, Secretaries of State, the

Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many other senior government officials

(Raymond McGovern) said ?I think at simplest terms, there?s a cover-up.

The 9/11 Report is a joke?, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was

an inside job.



A 29-year CIA veteran, former National Intelligence Officer (NIO) and

former Director of the CIA`s Office of Regional and Political Analysis

(William Bill Christison) said ?I now think there is persuasive evidence

that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration

and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. ... All three [buildings

that were destroyed in the World Trade Center] were most probably

destroyed by controlled demolition charges placed in the buildings

before 9/11." (and see this).



20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer, the

second-ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former

CIA clandestine services case officer (David Steele) stated that "9/11

was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war", and it was

probably an inside job (see Customer Review dated October 7, 2006).



A decorated 20-year CIA veteran, who Pulitzer-Prize winning

investigative reporter Seymour Hersh called "perhaps the best

on-the-ground field officer in the Middle East?, and whose astounding

career formed the script for the Academy Award winning motion picture

Syriana (Robert Baer) said that"the evidence points at" 9/11 having had

aspects of being an inside job .



The Division Chief of the CIA?s Office of Soviet Affairs, who served as

Senior Analyst from 1966 - 1990. He also served as Professor of

International Security at the National War College from 1986 - 2004

(Melvin Goodman) said "The final [9/11 Commission] report is ultimately

a coverup."



Professor of History and International Relations, University of

Maryland. Former Executive Assistant to the Director of the National

Security Agency. Former military attaché in China. 21-year career in

U.S. Army Intelligence (Major John M. Newman, PhD, U.S. Army)

questions the government`s version of the events of 9/11.



The head of all U.S. intelligence, the Director of National Intelligence

(Mike McConnel) said "9/11 should have and could have been prevented"



9/11 COMMISSIONERS



The 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials lied to the

Commission, and considered recommending criminal charges for such false

statements, yet didn`t bother to tell the American people (free

subscription required).



Indeed, the co-chairs of the Commission (Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton)

now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political

considerations.



9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says "I don`t believe for a minute

we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that

people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate

should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only "the first

draft" of history.



9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that "There are ample reasons to

suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our

version . . . We didn`t have access . . . ."



9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said "We were extremely frustrated with

the false statements we were getting"



Former 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission,

stating: "It is a national scandal"; "This investigation is now

compromised"; and "One of these days we will have to get the full story

because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House

wants to cover it up".



The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) who led the 9/11

staff`s inquiry, said "I was shocked at how different the truth was from

the way it was described .... The tapes told a radically different story

from what had been told to us and the public for two years.... This is

not spin. This is not true."

SCIENTISTS



A prominent physicist with 33 years of service for the Naval Research

Laboratory in Washington, DC (Dr. David L. Griscom) said that the

official theory for why the Twin Towers and world trade center building

7 collapsed "does not match the available facts" and supports the theory

that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition



A world-renowned scientist, recipient of the National Medal of Science,

America`s highest honor for scientific achievement (Dr. Lynn Margulis) said:



"I suggest that those of us aware and concerned demand that the

glaringly erroneous official account of 9/11 be dismissed as a fraud and

a new, thorough, and impartial investigation be undertaken."



The former head of the Fire Science Division of the government agency

which claims that the World Trade Centers collapsed due to fire (the

National Institute of Standards and Technology), who is a Ph.D. in

mechanical engineering, with more than 25 years experience in fire

research and its applications, and is a professor in the Department of

Fire Protection Engineering at the University of Maryland (Dr. James

Quintiere), called for an independent review of the World Trade Center

Twin Tower collapse investigation. "I wish that there would be a peer

review of this," he said, referring to the NIST investigation. "I think

all the records that NIST has assembled should be archived. I would

really like to see someone else take a look at what they`ve done; both

structurally and from a fire point of view. ... I think the official

conclusion that NIST arrived at is questionable."



Former Director for Research, Director for Aeronautical Projects, and

Flight Research Program Manager for NASA`s Dryden Flight Research

Center, who holds masters degrees in both physics and engineering (Dwain

A. Deets) says:



"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled

horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind

explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Centers

on 9/11].``



A prominent physicist, former U.S. professor of physics from a top

university, and a former principal investigator for the U.S. Department

of Energy, Division of Advanced Energy Projects (Dr. Steven E. Jones)

stated that the world trade centers were brought down by controlled

demolition



A U.S. physics professor who teaches at several universities (Dr.

Crockett Grabbe) believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down

by controlled demolition



An expert on demolition (Bent Lund) said that the trade centers were

brought down with explosives (in Danish)

A Dutch demolition expert (Danny Jowenko) stated that WTC 7 was imploded



A safety engineer and accident analyst for the Finnish National Safety

Technology Authority (Dr. Heikki Kurttila) stated regarding WTC 7 that

"The great speed of the collapse and the low value of the resistance

factor strongly suggest controlled demolition."



A 13-year professor of metallurgical engineering at a U.S. university,

with a PhD in materials engineering, a former Congressional Office of

Technology Assessment Senior Staff Member (Dr. Joel S. Hirschhorn), is

calling for a new investigation of 9/11



A Danish professor of chemistry (Dr. Niels Harrit) said, in a mainstream

Danish newspaper, "WTC7 collapsed exactly like a house of cards. If the

fires or damage in one corner had played a decisive role, the building

would have fallen in that direction. You don`t have to be a woodcutter

to grasp this" (translated)



A former guidance systems engineer for Polaris and Trident missiles and

professor emeritus, mathematics and computer science at a university

concluded (Dr. Bruce R. Henry) that the Twin Towers "were brought down

by planted explosives."



A professor of mathematics (Gary Welz) said "The official explanation

that I`ve heard doesn`t make sense because it doesn`t explain why I

heard and felt an explosion before the South Tower fell and why the

concrete was pulverized"

STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS



A prominent engineer with 55 years experience, in charge of the design

of hundreds of major building projects including high rise offices,

former member of the California Seismic Safety Commission and former

member of the National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council

(Marx Ayres) believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down by

controlled demolition (see also this)



Two professors of structural engineering at a prestigious Swiss

university (Dr. Joerg Schneider and Dr. Hugo Bachmann) said that, on

9/11, World Trade Center 7 was brought down by controlled demolition

(translation here)

Charles Pegelow, structural engineer, of Houston, Texas (and see this)



Dennis Kollar, structural engineer, of West Bend, Wisconsin



Doyle Winterton, structural engineer (retired)



Haluk Akol, Structural Engineer and architect (ret.)



William Rice, P.E., structural engineer, former professor of Vermont

Technical College



An architect, member of the American Institute of Architects, who has

been a practicing architect for 20 years and has been responsible for

the production of construction documents for numerous steel-framed and

fire-protected buildings for uses in many different areas, including

education, civic, rapid transit and industrial use (Richard Gage)

disputes the claim that fire and airplane damage brought down the World

Trade Centers and believes there is strong evidence of controlled

demolition (many other architects who question 9/11 are listed here)



LEGAL SCHOLARS



Former Federal Prosecutor, Office of Special Investigations, U.S.

Department of Justice under Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan;

former U.S. Army Intelligence officer, and currently a widely-sought

media commentator on terrorism and intelligence services (John Loftus)

questions the government`s version of 9/11.



Former Inspector General, U.S. Department of Transportation; former

Professor of Aviation, Dept. of Aerospace Engineering and Aviation and

Professor of Public Policy, Ohio State University (Mary Schiavo)

questions the government`s version of 9/11.



Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois, Champaign;

a leading practitioner and advocate of international law; responsible

for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the

American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons

Convention; served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International

(1988-1992), and represented Bosnia- Herzegovina at the World Court,

with a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political

Science, both from Harvard University (Dr. Francis Boyle) questions the

government`s version of 9/11.



Former prosecutor in the Organized Crime and Racketeering Section of the

U.S. Justice Department and a key member of Attorney General Bobby

Kennedy?s anti-corruption task force; former assistant U.S. Attorney for

the Northern District of Illinois (J. Terrence "Terry" Brunner)

questions the government`s version of 9/11.



Professor Emeritus, International Law, Professor of Politics and

International Affairs, Princeton University; in 2001 served on the

three-person UN Commission on Human Rights for the Palestine

Territories, and previously, on the Independent International Commission

on Kosovo (Richard Falk) questions the government`s version of 9/11.



Bessie Dutton Murray Distinguished Professor of Law Emeritus and

Director, Center for Human Rights, University of Iowa; Fellow, World

Academy of Art and Science. Honorary Editor, Board of Editors, American

Journal of International Law (Burns H. Weston) questions the

government`s version of 9/11.



Former president of the National Lawyers Guild (C. Peter Erlinder), who

signed a petition calling for a real investigation into 9/11. And see

petition.



Assistant Professor of Criminal Justice at Troy University; associate

General Counsel, National Association of Federal Agents; Retired Agent

in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs, responsible for the internal

integrity and security for areas encompassing nine states and two

foreign locations; former Federal Sky Marshall; 27-year U.S. Customs

career (Mark Conrad) questions the government`s version of 9/11.



Professor of Law, University of Freiburg; former Minister of Justice of

West Germany (Horst Ehmke) questions the government`s version of 9/11.



Director of Academic Programs, Institute for Policy and Economic

Development, University of Texas, El Paso, specializing in executive

branch secrecy policy, governmental abuse, and law and bureaucracy;

former U.S. Army Signals Intelligence officer; author of several books

on law and political theory (Dr. William G. Weaver) questions the

government`s version of 9/11.



Famed trial attorney (Gerry Spence) questions the government`s version

of 9/11.



Former Instructor of Criminal Trial Practice, Boalt Hall School of Law,

University of California at Berkeley 11-year teaching career. Retired

Chief Assistant Public Defender, Contra Costa County, California 31-year

career (William Veale) said:



"When you grow up in the United States, there are some bedrock

principles that require concerted effort to discard. One is the

simplest: that our leaders are good and decent people whose efforts may

occasionally warrant criticism but never because of malice or

venality... But one grows up. ... And with the lawyer`s training comes

the reliance on evidence and the facts that persuade... After a lot of

reading, thought, study, and commiseration, I have come to the

conclusion that the attacks of 9/11 were, in their essence, an inside

job perpetrated at the highest levels of the U S government."



MEMBERS OF CONGRESS



Current U.S. Senator (Patrick Leahy) states "The two questions that the

congress will not ask . . . is why did 9/11 happen on George Bush`s

watch when he had clear warnings that it was going to happen? Why did

they allow it to happen?"



Current Republican Congressman (Ron Paul) states that "we see the [9/11]

investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and

no real explanation of what went on"



Current Democratic Congressman (Dennis Kucinich) hints that we aren`t

being told the truth about 9/11



Former Democratic Senator (Mike Gravel) states that he supports a new

9/11 investigation and that we don`t know the truth about 9/11



Former U.S. Republican Congressman and senior member of the House Armed

Services Committee, and who served six years as the Chairman of the

Military Research and Development Subcommittee (Curt Weldon) has shown

that the U.S. tracked hijackers before 9/11, is open to hearing

information about explosives in the Twin Towers, and is open to the

possibility that 9/11 was an inside job



FAMILY MEMBERS AND HEROIC FIRST RESPONDERS



A common criticism of those who question 9/11 is that they are being

"disrespectful to the victims and their families".



However, half of the victim`s families believe that 9/11 was an inside

job (according to the head of the largest 9/11 family group, Bill Doyle)

(and listen to this interview). Many family and friends of victims not

only support the search for 9/11 truth, but they demand it (please

ignore the partisan tone). See also this interview.



Indeed, it has now become so clear that the 9/11 Commission was a

whitewash that the same 9/11 widows who called for the creation of the

9/11 Commission are now demanding a NEW investigation (see also this video).



And dying heroes, soon-to-be victims themselves, the first responders

who worked tirelessly to save lives on and after 9/11, say that

controlled demolition brought down the Twin Towers and that a real

investigation is necessary.



PSYCHIATRISTS AND PSYCHOLOGISTS



Finally, those who attack people who question the government`s version

of 9/11 as "crazy" may wish to review the list of mental health

professionals who have concluded that the official version of 9/11 is false:



Psychiatrist Carol S. Wolman, MD



Psychiatrist E. Martin Schotz



Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, Duke

University Medical Center, as well as Radiology, at Duke University

Medical Center D. Lawrence Burk, Jr., MD



Board of Governors Distinguished Service Professor of Psychology and

Associate Dean of the Graduate School at Ruters University Barry R.

Komisaruk



Professor of Psychology at University of New Hampshire William Woodward



Professor of Psychology at University of Essex Philip Cozzolino



Professor of Psychology at Goddard College Catherine Lowther



Professor Emeritus of Psychology at California Institute of Integral

Studies Ralph Metzner



Professor of Psychology at Rhodes University Mike Earl-Taylor



Retired Professor of Psychology at Oxford University Graham Harris



Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology from the University of Nebraska and

licensed Psychologist Ronald Feintech



Ph.D. Clinical Neuropsychologist Richard Welser



THOUSANDS OF OTHERS



The roster above is only a sample. There are too many Ph.D. scientists

and engineers, architects, military and intelligence officials,

politicians, legal scholars and other highly-credible people who

question 9/11 -- literally thousands -- to list in one place. Here are a

few additional people to consider:



The former director of the FBI (Louis Freeh) says there was a cover up

by the 9/11 Commission



Former air traffic controller, who knows the flight corridor which the

two planes which hit the Twin Towers flew "like the back of my hand" and

who handled two actual hijackings (Robin Hordon) says that 9/11 could

not have occurred as the government says, and that planes can be tracked

on radar even when their transponders are turned off (also, listen to

this interview)



Perhaps "the premiere collapse expert in the country", who 9/11

Commissioner Timothy Roemer referred to as a "very, very respected

expert on building collapse", the head of the New York Fire Department`s

Special Operations Command and the most highly decorated firefighter in

its NYFD history, who had previously "commanded rescue operations at

many difficult and complex disasters, including the Oklahoma City

Bombing, the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing, and many natural disasters

worldwide" thought that the collapse of the South Tower was caused by

bombs, because the collapse of the building was too even to have been

caused by anything else (pages 5-6).



Former Deputy Secretary for Intelligence and Warning under Nixon, Ford,

and Carter (Morton Goulder), former former Deputy Director to the White

House Task Force on Terrorism (Edward L. Peck), and former US Department

of State Foreign Service Officer (J. Michael Springmann), as well as a

who`s who of liberals and independents) jointly call for a new

investigation into 9/11



Former FBI agent (Robert Wright) says "The FBI, rather than trying to

prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they

would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred."



Former FBI translator, who the Department of Justice`s Inspector General

and several senators have called extremely credible (free subscription

required) (Sibel Edmonds), said "If they were to do real investigations

we would see several significant high level criminal prosecutions in

this country. And that is something that they are not going to let out.

And, believe me; they will do everything to cover this up". She also is

leaning towards the conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job.







http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/05/structural-engineers-question-collapse.html



Structural Engineers Question Collapse of the World Trade Center

One of the arguments that government apologists have used in trying to

prop up the official story of why the World Trade Centers came down on

9/11 is that no structural engineers have questioned the government`s

version of events. However, that is now changing.



The following structural engineers have now publicly challenged the

government`s account of the destruction of the Trade Centers on 9/11:



Hugo Bachmann and Jörg Schneider, both emeritus professors in

structural engineering at a prestigious Swiss university (translation

here)



Doyle Winterton, structural engineer (retired)



Joseph M. Phelps, MS, PE. Structural Dynamicist (ret.), Charter Member,

Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil

Engineers



Charles Pegelow, structural engineer, of Houston, Texas



William Rice, P.E., structural engineer, former professor of Vermont

Technical College



When considered along with the other prominent scientists who question

9/11, it becomes impossible for any thinking person to accept at face

value the government`s version of the destruction of the World Trade

Center.



More experts who who have used science and hard evidence to prove

demolition:



http://journalof911studies.com/



Still more engineers and experts who explain why the Bush regime`s

magic fire theory is physically impossible.



http://ae911truth.org/



Another one:



http://www.vermontguardian.com/commentary/032007/TwinTowers.shtml



And quite a few more:



http://911proof.com/10.html



More yet:



http://11syyskuu.blogspot.com/2006/02/destruction-of-wtc-7.html



And a couple hundred more:



http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html















--



http://911research.wtc7.net

http://www.911truth.org

http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html





Here`s what happens to steel framed buildings exposed

to raging infernos for hours on end.



http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html



On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which

had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry

at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled

demolition.



http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html

http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm



Ever wonder who benefits from the 700 MILLION

U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21



"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And

there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to

take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons

who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of

warfare or morality."

-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.

http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm



http://www.commondreams.org/

http://thirdworldtraveler.com/



"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things

that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.



"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,

or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is

not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable

to the American public."

-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)



Don`t let bu$h do to the United States what his very close

friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...









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From: Henry
Subject: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
investigation !!
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 08:52:55 -0400
Organization: Cornell University
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Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:

> I shouldn`t have to remind you though not to talk
> about it in front of you know who. Please try to be
> more careful in the future.

WTF?
BTW, you never did explain how dropping a block or
a stick somehow "proves" that a tall building can`t
be made to topple sideways. Care to give it a try
yet?

Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
> Henry wrote:

>> Apparently, your "expert" Thomas Eagar "thinks" that if
>> supports on only one side of a tall building are destroyed,
>> the building would still drop straight down, because - get this
>> - that`s the direction gravity is pulling. For your sake, I really
>> hope you don`t believe that sort of complete idiocy. Do you?

> Take any object, a block or a stick for example. Hold it at
> an angle, then drop it. Does it fall over sideways, or does it
> travel straight to the ground at the same angle ?

Say WTF? Dropping an object and letting it free fall has nothing
to do with the tilting of a structure that`s supported by the
ground. There`s no fulcrum or pivot point in your analogy. Are
you trolling, or really unable to grasp these concepts? If you
kick two legs off one side of a four legged table, do you think
the table will drop straight down with the top remaining level?
What in the hell are you talking about with these flying blocks
and sticks?

Speaking of lies and idiocy, do you still stand by
your claim that "Absolutely nobody in the structural
engineering community seems to find the collapse difficult
to believe"? Here are a few hundred experts who say
it`s impossible. Your lies are stupid, blatant, and
very easily exposed.


http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/05/structural-engineers-question-collapse.html

Structural Engineers Question Collapse of the World Trade Center
One of the arguments that government apologists have used in trying to
prop up the official story of why the World Trade Centers came down on
9/11 is that no structural engineers have questioned the government`s
version of events. However, that is now changing.

The following structural engineers have now publicly challenged the
government`s account of the destruction of the Trade Centers on 9/11:

Hugo Bachmann and Jörg Schneider, both emeritus professors in
structural engineering at a prestigious Swiss university (translation
here)

Doyle Winterton, structural engineer (retired)

Joseph M. Phelps, MS, PE. Structural Dynamicist (ret.), Charter Member,
Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil
Engineers

Charles Pegelow, structural engineer, of Houston, Texas

William Rice, P.E., structural engineer, former professor of Vermont
Technical College

When considered along with the other prominent scientists who question
9/11, it becomes impossible for any thinking person to accept at face
value the government`s version of the destruction of the World Trade
Center.

More experts who who have used science and hard evidence to prove
demolition:

http://journalof911studies.com/

Still more engineers and experts who explain why the Bush regime`s
magic fire theory is physically impossible.

http://ae911truth.org/

Another one:

http://www.vermontguardian.com/commentary/032007/TwinTowers.shtml

And quite a few more:

http://911proof.com/10.html

More yet:

http://11syyskuu.blogspot.com/2006/02/destruction-of-wtc-7.html

And a couple hundred more:

http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html






--

http://911research.wtc7.net
http://www.911truth.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html


Here`s what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm

Ever wonder who benefits from the 700 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don`t let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...


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From: Henry
Subject: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
investigation !!
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 08:53:15 -0400
Organization: Cornell University
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Sender: hhh3(at)cornell.invalid








Eric Gisse wrote:

> Apparently Henry

This thread is about the 9-11 demolitions, not me.
Your mindless obsessing and fact avoidance only
confirms your inability do defend your comical cartoon
fairy tale.



http://911blogger.com/node/14549

Report Of WTC Collapse Cover-Up Justifies Call For New Inquiry
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth experts demand questions answered

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Wednesday, March 26, 2008

Richard Gage AIA, the founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth,
and hundreds of other industry experts` call for a new investigation
into the collapse of the WTC twin towers and Building 7 is gaining
strength following revelations of falsification and cover-up in relation
to the FEMA-funded inquiry into the destruction of the buildings on 9/11.

As we reported earlier, the American Society of Civil Engineers - an
organization that was funded by FEMA to investigate the collapse of the
twin towers on 9/11 - has been accused of engaging in a cover-up to
protect the government, with critics charging the organization falsified
conclusions that skyscrapers could not withstand getting hit by airplanes.

In a recent sit-down video interview conducted by Alex Jones, Gage gave
a succinct presentation bringing forth the best evidence for controlled
demolition being the cause of the three buildings` implosion on
September 11.

As Gage highlights during the interview, numerous prominent architects
and other industry experts have called for a new investigation into the
collapse of the twin towers and WTC 7.


Richard Gage details the evidence for demolition in an exclusive new
PrisonPlanet.tv video presentation.

These include James Quintiere, Ph.D., former Chief of the Fire Science
Division of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST),
who last year said that "the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is
questionable."

"Let`s look at real alternatives that might have been the cause of the
collapse of the World Trade Towers and how that relates to the official
cause and what`s the significance of one cause versus another," he added.

Charles Pegelow, BS CE ? Civil Engineer with more than 25 years
experience in structural design and analysis and project management of
construction of major projects, including large steel structures, also
added his support to a new inquiry.

Pegelow stated that the "FEMA / Kean Commission Report was a flawed
investigation and it needs to be reopened."

Joel S. Hirschhorn, former full professor Univ. of Wisconsin, Madison;
senior official at the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment;
Director of Environment, Energy and Natural Resources at the National
Governors Assoc., has also called for a new investigation to bring out
the truth behind 9/11.

The Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth website lists scores of other
experts who have added their voice to the call for a fresh inquiry and
Gage lists their credentials during the video interview.

Today`s fresh controversy, allied to last month`s revelations about 9/11
Commission executive director Philip Zelikow`s ties to the White House
and his efforts to shield the Bush administration from responsibility
for the terror attack, only lend new weight to calls for an independent
inquiry - complete with subpoena powers - into the terror attacks.


http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/05/structural-engineers-question-collapse.html

Structural Engineers Question Collapse of the World Trade Center
One of the arguments that government apologists have used in trying to
prop up the official story of why the World Trade Centers came down on
9/11 is that no structural engineers have questioned the government`s
version of events. However, that is now changing.

The following structural engineers have now publicly challenged the
government`s account of the destruction of the Trade Centers on 9/11:

Hugo Bachmann and Jörg Schneider, both emeritus professors in
structural engineering at a prestigious Swiss university (translation
here)

Doyle Winterton, structural engineer (retired)

Joseph M. Phelps, MS, PE. Structural Dynamicist (ret.), Charter Member,
Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil
Engineers

Charles Pegelow, structural engineer, of Houston, Texas

William Rice, P.E., structural engineer, former professor of Vermont
Technical College

When considered along with the other prominent scientists who question
9/11, it becomes impossible for any thinking person to accept at face
value the government`s version of the destruction of the World Trade
Center.

More experts who who have used science and hard evidence to prove
demolition:

http://journalof911studies.com/

Still more engineers and experts who explain why the Bush regime`s
magic fire theory is physically impossible.

http://ae911truth.org/

Another one:

http://www.vermontguardian.com/commentary/032007/TwinTowers.shtml

And quite a few more:

http://911proof.com/10.html

More yet:

http://11syyskuu.blogspot.com/2006/02/destruction-of-wtc-7.html

And a couple hundred more:

http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html






--

http://911research.wtc7.net
http://www.911truth.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html


Here`s what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm

Ever wonder who benefits from the 700 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don`t let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...




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From: Henry
Subject: Re: !! Architects and Engineers expose cover-up and request new 9-11
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:05:20 -0400
Organization: Cornell University
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Steve wrote:
> "Henry" wrote in message

>> http://911blogger.com/node/14549

>> Report Of WTC Collapse Cover-Up Justifies Call For New Inquiry
>> Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth experts demand questions answered

> Scarcely new and it scarcely matters. No one takes "truthers" seriously
> anymore.

Correction, the kooks don`t take truth, freedom,
courage, or justice seriously. In fact, those are
traits that are vehemently rejected by kooks and
extremists.
I notice that you are unable to refute any of the facts
presented by the hundreds of highly qualified experts who
have proved that the Bush regime`s magic fire cartoon
conspiracy theory is physically impossible. We`re used
to that.

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/05/structural-engineers-question-collapse.html

Structural Engineers Question Collapse of the World Trade Center
One of the arguments that government apologists have used in trying to
prop up the official story of why the World Trade Centers came down on
9/11 is that no structural engineers have questioned the government`s
version of events. However, that is now changing.

The following structural engineers have now publicly challenged the
government`s account of the destruction of the Trade Centers on 9/11:

Hugo Bachmann and Jörg Schneider, both emeritus professors in
structural engineering at a prestigious Swiss university (translation
here)

Doyle Winterton, structural engineer (retired)

Joseph M. Phelps, MS, PE. Structural Dynamicist (ret.), Charter Member,
Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil
Engineers

Charles Pegelow, structural engineer, of Houston, Texas

William Rice, P.E., structural engineer, former professor of Vermont
Technical College

When considered along with the other prominent scientists who question
9/11, it becomes impossible for any thinking person to accept at face
value the government`s version of the destruction of the World Trade
Center.

More experts who who have used science and hard evidence to prove
demolition:

http://journalof911studies.com/

Still more engineers and experts who explain why the Bush regime`s
magic fire theory is physically impossible.

http://ae911truth.org/

Another one:

http://www.vermontguardian.com/commentary/032007/TwinTowers.shtml

And quite a few more:

http://911proof.com/10.html

More yet:

http://11syyskuu.blogspot.com/2006/02/destruction-of-wtc-7.html

And a couple hundred more:

http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html





--

http://911research.wtc7.net
http://www.911truth.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html


Here`s what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm

Ever wonder who benefits from the 700 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don`t let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...




Title: Is a second "stimulus package" coming?
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:32:49 +0000
Author: thepoliticalmemo

In 2008, the men and women of Congress have, reacting to the subprime mortgage fiasco, passed the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act, which in essence was a bailout of the financial system, authorizing the U.S. Treasury to use $700 billion in funds to buy distressed assets (particularly mortgage-backed securities) and fork out money to failing banks that were affected by the mess.

Following on the heels of this, $787 billion more in funds were authorized in February this year in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, also known as the “stimulus package”.  The funds were directed mostly to be spent on such things like the tax cuts, social welfare related expenses, education, health care, infrastructure, and the like, all in the name of “stimulating” the economy.  Of course, also included in the bill were funds to be used on many pork projects.

And now, even after our government has spent over $1 trillion on bailouts to failing finanancial firms and on expensive measures to supposedly “stimulate” the economy, we are seeing signs that, apparently, our government thinks it hasn’t spent enough money on saving the economy.  Our government, it seems, is thinking about using funds on a second “stimulus package”, this time tailored to stem the rising unemployment rates. 

Consider this: White House senior adviser Valerie Jarrett in one moment, when asked on Meet the Press if President Barack Obama was considering a second stimulus, said that “I think it’s too soon. It’s premature to say, ‘Is a second stimulus needed?’ ,” but in the next moment said that the White House was mulling over measures that have the potential to stimulate the economy.

Consider also this, an excerpt from an article from Time.com:

“But at the White House, there is no confusion. More stimulus is coming, but it just won’t be called stimulus. Economic advisers, in concert with senior Democrats in the House and Senate, are planning additional piecemeal benefit extensions, tax breaks and other spending that could eventually add up to as much as $100 billion, say some outside experts. ‘The fact is that this is a word game. It isn’t a discussion of the ’second stimulus,’ ’ says Jennifer Psaki, a White House spokeswoman. ‘This needs to be an ongoing discussion between the President and his economic team about new ideas and ways to get people back to work.’


More on: http://thepoliticalmemo.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/is-a-second-stimulus-package-coming/







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